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To: Raymond Duray who wrote (30150)	3/26/2003 3:38:07 AM
From: elmatador	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Here are the proof of the posting: Message 18753789 Retired general is chosen to head the occupation government of Iraq. Remember? Jobs for the boys. He visited Israel in a paid trip by extreme right group. The group states that the US need Israel to project their power in the Middle East. Lieutenant-General Jay Garner included his name in October 2000 on a violent declaration that condemns Palestinians for the eruption of violence in the region and says that a strong Israel state is important for US security. The communiqué issued by JINSA Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs www.jinsa.org pays trip for retired military form the US visit Israel for participating on speeches by officers and politicians of Israel. Richard Perle, is part of the council as was Vice President Dick Cheney. JINSA lists among its directors: Richard Perle, Steven Bryen (whose wife, Shoshana Bryen is still one of the few full-time JINSA employees), Max Kampelman, Jeanne Kirkpatrick, Jack Kemp, Michael Ledeen, Joshua Muravchik, Kenneth Timmermann, and James Woolsey. Beyond these hardcore "X Committee" operatives, JINSA's board also includes a dozen or more retired flag grade U.S. military officers, including Lt. Gen. Anthony Burshnick (USAF), Gen. Crosbie Saint (USA), Maj. Gen. Lee Downer (USAF), Adm. Leon Edney (USN), Gen. John Foss (USA), Adm. David Jeremiah (USN), Adm. Jerome Johnson (USN), Maj. Gen. Jarvis Lynch (USMC), Rear Adm. Sumner Shapiro (USN). That's what the "defense" caste of the US needs: An Israelization of Iraq to keep their cushy jobs and the dead are only the weak guys. I wish it had ended in pizza!!

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (30150)	3/26/2003 4:28:50 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Respond to of 74559

Ray, I'm not just a Wall Street plant, I'm also a CIA stooge. But under cover, I'm a Hu Jintao double agent. [Might as well be paid by both sides of the street]. I used to get good pay as a Big Oil shill, but find more fun and profit in being a CDMA Mafia Member. I get my power kicks from being secretly a paid-up, card-carrying member of the extreme right wing Act New Zealand political party, which is currently undergoing a disguise process, in true Orwellian spirit, to call itself the Liberal Party. We aim to rule the world. So far, so good, but it's like herding cats. "We the Sheeple" should behave more like sheep - it would make life much easier for all of us. Fleecing highly mobile individual cats is NOT fun compared with fleecing sheeple. There's a lot of scratching and biting for a start. Mqurice Psst, I'm not sure if I should admit it, but I'm also a card-carrying member of the Rationalist Association. We plan to displace God, Allah, Buddah and the whole panoply of supernatural beings and even the astrological figures. Some think that is taking the pursuit of power too far, but heck, I can barely break 80 at golf, so might as well do something for which I have more talent. Ruling the world and cosmos seems reasonable to me. Nietzche apparently said God is Dead, but then died himself. John Lennon reckoned the Beatles were more popular than Jesus, but he had an early demise [I wonder if Jesus' Dad took umbrage and revenge]. Those guys lacked ambition and imagination. I'm going for broke! It and We the Sheeple, forever!! You are either with us or against us. We are going to rule the world and cosmos. Hahahaahaha!! [Evil laugh]. If anything untoward should happen to me, this will give you some idea of who the guilty party might be.