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To: Raymond Duray who wrote (30165)	3/26/2003 4:20:01 AM
From: elmatador	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

<<How did humanity become so stupid as to allow an insect like Bush to take over our collective future?>> That's an easy one: Because Americans don't think that their government matter since they were taught and manipulated -by a few canny men- that they are free. Then, the US collectively reasoned, if we are free why should I chose carefully the leadership. The canny guys took over and hence the present situation. For me is very easy to see it because to be a Brazilian you have to: mistrust ANY authority and be suspicious of ANY big institution. Hence I am not easy manipulated and consider myself more free than anybody else

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (30165)	3/26/2003 4:22:30 AM
From: EL KABONG!!!	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

Ray, You got any answers as to how an idiot child of America can be calling the tune? It's actually very simple to explain. Lots of Americans saw Mr. Bush as the lesser of multiple evils. Think back to the choices we (all parties, not just Democrats and Republicans) were offered in the primaries and the general election(s). Were we offered the same choices again as we were offered in 1999/2000, it is likely we would all vote exactly as we did back then. KJC

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (30165)	3/26/2003 3:08:07 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Respond to of 74559

Hi Ray. <You got any answers as to how an idiot child of America can be calling the tune?> King George II is King, but he's not exactly calling the shots. He has some presidential power, which is circumscribed by the Senate, which has rejected his tax cut ideas. He is constrained by Congress, which can, if he goes overboard, impeach and remove him. Congress won't do that while 70% of the electorate support him. It's about 90% of Republicans in his war plans. Then, there are his appointees, the Supreme Court, who can exert some influence too if they choose to. For example they could declare something unconstitutional and throw it back to Congress to correct the error by voting a constitutional change. Stuff like that is my understanding of how the levers of power work. Not to mention the likes on Enron won't give him money for re-election and his oil buddies won't support him if he doesn't do what they think is a good idea. Plus he has to keep a weather eye on the electorate's thinking if he wants a second term, which people who love power invariably seem to want. Even President Raygun, who claimed he was just going to do one term, went for two when he realized it would be a cakewalk and that he quite enjoyed being the Big Cheese. <You got any answers as to how an idiot child of America can be calling the tune? I sure don't. And I live here.> Distance lends perspective. I have all the answers. Don't forget too that people actually like King George II. He's a party guy, albeit a reformed boozer and presumably a cocaine snorter. Also, he talks the wacko fundamentalist religious cant which so many Americans subscribe to. The burdens of office do seem a bit too onerous for him though. At times I have wondered whether he is losing his grip, but then he comes on again and seems well in control and enjoying his limited power as much as Saddam does. Mqurice

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (30165)	3/26/2003 5:25:40 PM
From: Seeker of Truth	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

You want an answer as to how an idiot can be ruling the U.S. First consider that half the population of the U.S. is already so idiotic that they don't vote. More than half of the rest that did vote, voted against Bush. But with the aid of friends in the Supreme Court he sneaked in. So why are there so many idiots? Alas, smart people tend to have few children and dumb people tend to have more children. This is the trend of rich countries. And the U.S. has been rich longer than any of the others. The genetic decline has gone on longer. We need to construct a society in which the intelligent are bribed to have more children and the unintelligent are bribed to have less. We need a society in which it has been realized that a very few do most of the innovation and most of the wealth creation. All countries need more of the intelligent, the creative people, and fewer of the other kind. The countries that realize the importance of this matter will race to the front. The U.S. is, currently, falling back. I continue to believe that investing in the U.S. is a long term mistake. As for Bush being the most reprehensible person on the planet, I think you are getting too carried away. Saddam, Sharon, Bin Laden can all give him a run for his money in the evil league. They are all bad men.