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To: michael97123 who wrote (86973)	3/27/2003 11:54:24 AM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

I would say the KKK, white supremist groups, and Timothy McVeigh types are also anti-american. Do you agree with that? Mike If you made that cut, Mike, I could list a lot of groups/individuals. I simply don't find the term anti-American a very helpful one. Hmm, as I type, I realize I can expand a bit. The KKK is a racist group, as of course, are white supremicist groups. But racism has a long and disreputable history in America. I consider it despicable but there is a reasonably strong argument, given even the founding documents that the racism thread was there from the beginning and has hung around a very long time. The US has come a long way in the last forty or fifty years on the racism front. As on the discrimination against women front. But we've got a long way to go. On both.

To: michael97123 who wrote (86973)	3/27/2003 12:13:37 PM
From: Jacob Snyder	Respond to of 281500

"segment of anti war folks are anti american" Honestly, having been to many anti-war meetings 25 years ago, and recently, I have met almost nobody who is anti-american. A lot of people at these meetings are ashamed at specific things Americans and their government have done, and they want to change those things, to make the U.S. a better nation. But everyone, almost without exception, wants to improve the nation, not hurt it. And I'll admit, sometimes people get angry, and do stupid things (like burning American flags). These things are done out of anger and frustration; antiwar leaders without exception realize actions like this are wrong and counter-productive. Unfortunately, this cannot be said of many of the anti-war groups outside the U.S. The "antiwar" demonstrations in, say, the West Bank, seek the defeat of the U.S., and the military victory of the Iraqis and Hamas.