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To: JohnM who wrote (86979)	3/27/2003 2:49:25 PM
From: LindyBill	Respond to of 281500

"National Review." Patience The main thing remains the main thing. .......I am reminded of the war against the Taliban and al Qaeda in Afghanistan. During the early phases, critics were beginning to claim that Afghanistan had become a quagmire, that U.S. troops would suffer the same fate as the British and Russians before them. A week later the Taliban collapsed. Of course, the current conflict is a different war in a different place. There are still plenty of things that can go wrong. We can expect further setbacks. But the Iraqis seem to be incapable of anything beyond a static defense and guerillas operations by the Iraqi equivalent of the Gestapo and SS. Patience is a virtue at all times, but especially in time of war. nationalreview.com

To: JohnM who wrote (86979)	3/27/2003 10:46:36 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

As for the degree to which anti-semitism is just beneath the surface of Protestant fundamentalism, having grown up in the midst of that and still maintain contacts there, it's just barely beneath the surface. It doesn't get publicly spoken, but, unfortunately, it's there and deep. OK, I've read this nonsense from you before. Since I was in some kind of Southern Baptist church service 3-4 times a week throughout my youth, and was for a time once a Sunday School teacher, I figure I'm as qualified to talk about Christian fundamentalism as anyone else. And I gotta say I don't remember hearing of anything remotely anti-semitic ever among the Baptists I grew up among. Now I will say in the interest of truthfulness, if you were talking about bigotry against blacks, that would be another, different story. Although my home church did occasionally have a black visitor. And I think the church people were less biased than the non-churched. I did once hear something pretty critical about Jews in a sermon about the crucifixion by a Presbyterian. Can't recall the exact words, but I do remember thinking, that's funny, in our church, we say Jesus died for our (meaning all of our) sins. I don't know about your background, but I think it's pretty clear to me your experience is far different than mine.