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To: Berry Picker who wrote (34689)3/27/2003 6:32:57 PM
From: alan w  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 39621
 
So using your logic, the all in Adam did NOT die. Because all does not mean all. Some in Adam are not condemned. So the verse should read "as in Adam, some died, even so, in Christ, shall some be made alive".

Yes Alan - everyone ends up in heaven...
So why would anyone even want to repent?


Out of love for our God and Savior. When we see Christ as He is, when we are no longer in our contemptible filthy rags, we will all bow and confess. Out of love Brian.

What does it mean to be saved - saved from what?

From death, not from life frying in a hellhole. The wages of sin is death. How we twist that into "life in torment" is beyond me. Being dead means to be "not alive".

So 2 Peter 3:9 is the only one you could even try to refute? What about 1 Timothy 4:10? Is that only speaking about believers? I thought it said "who is the Savior of ALL MEN especially believers.

What about 1 Timothy 2:1-6

1 I am entreating, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, pleadings, thanksgiving be made for all mankind,
2 for kings and all those being in a superior station, that we may be leading a mild and quiet life in all devoutness and gravity,
3 for this is ideal and welcome in the sight of our Saviour, God,
4 Who wills that all mankind be saved and come into a realization of the truth.


There it is Brian. God, our Savior, wills that all mankind be saved and come into a realization of the truth. Do you have this one marked out with your permamark?

5 For there is one God, and one Mediator of God and mankind, a Man, Christ Jesus,
6 Who is giving Himself a correspondent Ransom for all (the testimony in its own eras),

No comment on 1 John 2:2 either? Can't get around those can you?

Most will not be saved - end of story.

You really minimize Christ's sacrifice Brian. Lo, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world. Not Lo, the Lamb of God, who only wanted to take away some of the sin of the world.

Later.

alan w