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To: i-node who wrote (509)3/28/2003 3:09:36 PM
From: Michael Hart  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 3386
 
When is the expected timeframe for replacing their satellites?

Thnx,

Mike

PS: David & pcstel... don't get exasperated your conversation is very educational for me(us) I commend the both of you for your knowledge.



To: i-node who wrote (509)3/28/2003 3:20:52 PM
From: pcstel  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 3386
 
Actual and projected SAC, including fixed marketing costs, were computed by Merrill Lynch as of yesterday as follows:

2002 - $430
2003 - $175
2004 - $120


Yes, I believe I calculated the CPGA as in excess of $400 about 4 months ago...

In message 509 I stated... Cost of Goods sold less equipment revenue is your subsidy provided. With subsidies of 11.8 million and Net Adds of ~64K. Your subsidy component of CPGA is over $180 by itself if Churn was zero. That does not include your sales and marketing expenses that would relate to CPGA. XM CPGA is well over $400. They can tell you some sort of "powder puff" figures that relates on how they want you to consider CPGA. But, it's not how the subscriber industry at large and "profesional investors" would calculate it. Message 18272472

If the CPGA costs were over $400 last year as calculated by ML and myself. Then I have a hard time in understanding the credibility of your claims that the subscribers that activated a year ago have already repaid their CPGA costs?

From a cash flow perspective, what is important is that SAC level off at some reasonable level prior to the time the satellites have to be replaced (which will require additional cash flow). TODAY, the subs from 1 year ago are paid for. So, your argument that SAC effectively prevents profitability is without reason.

Message 18764429

Maybe you were confused?

This is clearly as I indicated you would see when we argued this six months ago; that you have a certain amount of substantial up-front costs that are better characterized as startup costs.

You can "classify it" anyway you want. It's still marketing costs whose ultimate goal is to acquire subscribers. This is no longer a development stage enterprise.

You should also keep in mind that the average subscriber is paying 1 year in advance; thus, beginning '04, the total cost of subscriber acqusition will be covered in advance.

If so, this would be a "first" in the subscriber businss!

You're obviously confused on this issue; perhaps by some other kind of business you've been involved with.

Oh! Maybe that is the case!

And so it goes,
PCSTEL