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To: Berry Picker who wrote (34802)3/28/2003 6:17:30 PM
From: alan w  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 39621
 
Jesus mentions them in tha parable about Lazarus and the "unnamed" wicked
rich man. (God forgets the names of the wicked.)


A parable about the pharasees and the dogs(the gentiles) Not a treatise on eternity. Please.

One place of comfort was "Abraham's bosom" after the
resurrection and judgement this place was abolished
and those who "rested" there went to an eternal place
called Heaven.


You do of course have scripture to back up this ridiculous claim. When and by who was it abolished? I'd like book chapter verse.

But there was another place of holding - a place of torment.
According to you this place either 'was' or 'will be' thrown into
the Lake of Fire and all those souls will cease to exist.

My question is - where did you get that from.


This "place" is called sheol in the old testament and hades in the new testament. It simply means imperceptible or unseen. It is not a place. It is death. Unconsciousness. As in "the living know that they must die, but the dead know not anything".

Daniel 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

Job 14:12 So man lieth down and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep.

2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise and the elements shall melt with a fervent heat, the earth also and the works therein shall be burned up.

Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they must die, but the dead know not anything.

Ecclesiastes 9:10 Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might, for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the wither thou goest.

Ecclesiastes 3:19 For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts, even one thing befalleth them, as the one dieth, so dieth the other, yea, they all have one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast; for all is vanity.

1 Timothy 6:16 The King of Kings and Lord of Lords, who only hath immortality.

What this means Brian is that when we die, we're dead.

Why does one place of holding become eternal
and the other place of holding not become eternal?


What are you talking about????

There is no promise that someday nowhere in the universe will evil exist is there?
I think this is wishful thinking and nothing more.


Shows what you think you know. Would you consider "evil" an enemy? All enemies will be defeated.
1 Corinthians 15:26 The last enemy is being abolished: death. (CLNT)

All enemies will be abolished. Christ will hand a perfected kingdom over to God the Father. This was why He was made manifest: To annull the works of the adversary. 1 John 3:8. Christ will completely defeat ALL ENEMIES. Including sin and death. It won't be shuffled over to a corner somewhere, it will be gone. You don't have much respect for the power of the cross.

I think it is because men can not bare the reality of God
who will in fact punish eternally those who have done wickedly.


So he'll punish eternally those who have sinned for 80 years. Sounds great. Tell me, why won't you spend eternity in burning fire?

I do not see where the bible teaches this cessationist thinking.

Of course not, you've been well schooled in the traditions of the old church of Rome. They started all the pagan traditions you cling so tightly to.