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To: Sun Tzu who wrote (87452)	3/28/2003 8:27:36 PM
From: michael97123	Respond to of 281500

> We'll have war until the species is extinct. Or perhaps until the nation state is extinct. When nations relate to each other as kansas and nebraska do, no more war. And of course a world full of democratic nations is a first step to a world government with legs. If all goes well 50 years for a word full of democracies and perhaps 100 to one world Earth government. Mike

To: Sun Tzu who wrote (87452)	3/29/2003 1:55:21 AM
From: jttmab	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Re: England and war.... One could toy with the thought of Northern Ireland and war. If you don't consider Northern Ireland in a State of War at the moment, how long has it been. A decade at most. Britain is at war with Iraq. That is progress since they beheaded them in the public streets, but Britain does have an inventory of nuclear weapons. What you are seeing is the result of the world becoming a global village without our international behavior reflecting that. Trying to be. You can also see how dependent global cooperation is on a single individual. Put one person into power that can exploit patriotism and/or religion for political objectives and before you know it half the population believes that some or most of the 9/11 hijackers were Iraqis. When we collectively move in the same path that brought social order for our society (and in fact every other society in the world) then we will be free of war and terrorism. And this would be the civilized society that supported Pinochet, the Shah and Saddam? We're spending more on the war in Iraq in a week, than what needs to be spent on providing the third world safe drinking water. This civilized society still has a long way to go. I'm all for a world wide ban on personnel land mines, spending the relatively few billion on safe drinking water around the world and stopping the sale of weapons to the third world. That would be major progress towards a more peaceful world. jttmab