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To: hugh thorne who wrote (381322)	3/29/2003 12:05:15 PM
From: CYBERKEN	Respond to of 769670

A moment to stop and understand what I write would keep you from making a fool of yourself. Kroupa represents what is WRONG on the energy issue (and all others). He has swallowed the Lenist anti-humanity enviro-whacko propaganda whole, thinking it makes him look "intelligent". The purpose of that enviro-whacko is to HARM Amrerica's ability to produce energy, thus weakening the most important bastion of defense against the murderous Marxist/Leninist oppression in the world. This propaganda depends on USFUL IDIOTS, and Kroupa stands ready to be the dupe...

To: hugh thorne who wrote (381322)	3/29/2003 5:16:46 PM
From: Krowbar	Respond to of 769670

Reflect on this. It is on the front page here on SI. Right wingers with tunnel vision might have trouble reading it though. Report: L.A. Suburb May Have Helped Enron 03/29/2003 16:12:43 EST Newly released federal documents suggest that the Los Angeles suburb of Glendale helped Enron Corp. traders manipulate California's energy market to drive up prices, a newspaper report reported Saturday. The Federal Energy Regulatory Commission documents show municipal utility managers even quizzed employees on a Fat Boy strategy - the nickname Enron gave a trading scheme to create the appearance of power shortages. Several wrote on a February 2000 test that it involved splitting profits or losses with Enron, the Los Angeles Times reported. The Glendale utility was among several public agencies that allegedly engaged in price gouging during the state's 2000-2001 power crisis, but it stands out due to the sheer volume and detail of evidence against it, the newspaper said.... siliconinvestor.com Del

To: hugh thorne who wrote (381322)	3/29/2003 5:29:40 PM
From: Krowbar	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

< yea cyber whatever, California has no responsibilty for it's huge appetite for energy. They are just victims of the VP! > First off, I am not Cyber whatever. Second, try to read this objectively... WASHINGTON, March 27 (Reuters) The Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) will decide in the coming weeks whether to revoke power-trading privileges of Morgan Stanley, Dynegy Inc. and 35 other and energy companies and municipal utilities, the agency's head said on Thursday. FERC staff recommended that the agency consider stripping power trading privileges from the 37 companies, but Chairman Pat Wood would not indicate at a Senate Energy Committee hearing whether FERC would take such action. "We'd like to act on that by the end of April," probably at the FERC's regular meeting on April 30, Wood told reporters after testifying at the hearing. The staff report released on Wednesday found widespread market manipulation during California's electricity crisis of 2000-01 by 37 firms and government-owned entities... energycentral.com That's Cheney's buddies that attended his secret energy meeting who were involved with the manipulation. The "liberal" press had many stories about the Californian's whining about being manipulated, and made it appear that it was their own fault. Now that they are being shown to be correct, there is no coverage in the mainline "liberal" press. Imagine that. Del