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To: SirRealist who wrote (87661)3/29/2003 12:54:28 PM
From: paul_philp  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 

Reagan and his advisers get a share of the credit, but so does Gorbachev, so does the Gdansk movement, so does the economic rot festering beneath the Soviet system, and more.

Gandhian resistance worked because of an established tradition of British civility beneath its empirical exterior. It would not work against a Stalin or Hitler, who could care less how many were slaughtered.



Two excellent statements.

Regean was far from the sole causative factor in the fall of the Soviet Union. Where he deserves credit is that he lead from the front on the issue, in the face of massive domestic resistance, and history demonstrated he was right in his stand. Of course, it is the people who lead from the front on issues where they are eventually proven right that get the big myths written about them.

Paul



To: SirRealist who wrote (87661)3/29/2003 1:14:39 PM
From: Neocon  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
Yes, the decision to support the mujaheddin was important, and was initiated during the Carter years. However, this was like a sudden coming to its senses on the part of that Administration, which had already weakened our strategic position and invited Soviet adventurism by its fecklessness.

The specter of Soviet bankruptcy has been exaggerated post hoc as a rationalization by all of those who, in the early '80s, asserted that Reagan was playing into the hands of Kremlin hardliners, and would make the Cold War more dangerous. They were, of course, wrong, and he was right, an unthinkable situation. Therefore, he had to be lucky, and the Soviet Union had to be on the verge of collapse anyway, although no one knew it. In reality, of course, there was no reason that the Soviet Union needed to maintain an offensive posture in the Warsaw Pact, or needed to perpetuate an arms race. At any time, it could have disengaged and reallocated GDP from military to consumer items (American was spending about 6% of GDP on the military, by comparison to their 25%). Also, even with the Leninist example of NEP in their history, the Soviets never tried to follow the Chinese example of economic liberalization, which was providing impressive growth in the PRC. No, they were far from bankrupt, by any normal measure.

One is left with the fact that Reagan anticipated the real possibility that the Wall would fall, when few others did, and that he pursued an aggressive strategy that anticipated success in pushing back Soviet adventurism when the experts decried his attitude as harmful, and on both counts, was more right than his critics.......