To: Knighty Tin who wrote (98438 ) 3/30/2003 12:42:24 PM From: Tommaso Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 132070 In the 1920s, with the US dollar firmly on a gold standard that had been reestablished over several decades following the Civil War inflation and the greenback era, it was easy to get a fixed return of 4% to 6% in real, lightly-taxed, gold-backed dollars. If I knew exactly where I could get an inflation-proof 6% return on my money that was perfectly safe, that's where I would go right now. I might even settle for as low as 4%. But I don't know of such a place. You get a return of almost 6% on FCO right now and 8.5% on FAX--but worldwide inflation, competitive devaluations, and rising interest rates could cut the principal by 25% or more over 3-4 years. The fluctuations of the value of gold are more exciting than I care to be much exposed to. You can't get zilch for return on money market funds and in case of a major chain of bankruptcies there might even be some principal losses on these. The Canadian energy royalty trusts pay as high as 20%, and they do try to constantly acquire new producing properties, but there is the risk of bad management and even fraud in any given trust. I think I may continue to put a lot of money in an assortment of these, as well as other energy plays. The best I can do for my wife's pension fund is 100% TIPS. But a large part of my "investment" situation is pure short term speculation, mostly bearish, and bearish speculation has to be abandoned well in advance of any new bull market. I suppose I could sell everything, pay taxes, and put the cash into ordinary inflation-protected U.S. Savings bonds. But even there, I do not trust the government to be honest about adjusting for inflation. I mean, if they take out food and energy prices and call what's left "core" inflation, what kind of figure is that? So here I am, day after day, playing blackjack with a screwed-up economic system, counting the cards as best I can, and with the IRS always there to take their hefty cut if you get ahead. Oh well, what the hell, I am having a pretty good time.