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Politics : Piffer Thread on Political Rantings and Ravings -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Lost1 who wrote (10311)3/30/2003 11:30:24 PM
From: Lazarus_Long  Respond to of 14610
 
illegal war
Would you cite the US Code section or treaty that makes this war illegal?

Antiwar Americans,
Yeah. 20% of the US population.

the beginning of the end for a unified Iraqi state.
Tell me when to start crying.

one guaranteeing full autonomy for Iraqi Kurdistan and the other an intent to respect and defend Iraq's present-day borders.
Am I missing something? Doesn't full autonomy for Kurdisatan mean it becopmes a separate country? Then how do you respect the present borders?

3. Let the Iraqis Choose Their Own Government.

Bush claims that he wants to establish democracy in Iraq. Now he has to make good on that vow. That means creating the conditions that would allow free elections – peace and economic stability, reconstruction, a free press, open electioneering, recognition of political parties from across the political spectrum, including Saddam's Ba'ath Party – to occur.

Of course.

Bush shouldn't be tempted to repeat the Florida 2000-style backstage antics
That's a slur.

4. Rebuild Iraq.

Few Americans understand how badly we botched our occupation of Afghanistan. Hardly any know that U.S.-occupied Afghanistan has been reduced to pre-Taliban-style warlordism, that rape gangs rule the nights, that the stonings of adulterers continue, and that not one house has been rebuilt with international assistance – not even in Kabul, the one city ruled by the central government.

Agreed. More is required there.

But the rest of the world knows – and that's why they'll be watching us in Iraq. We have a second chance to get things right – but it's going to take billions of dollars and several hundred thousand troops at least a decade to get Iraq back on its feet.
Uh, I thought we weren't supoosed to have a long occupation of Iraq- -that the Arabs objected. How can we be there and not be there?

But that's the least we can do after subjecting the country to 12 years of brutal economic sanctions.
WAIT A MINUTE! Weren't those UN sanctions? But it's all our fault?

5. Get Out.
See above.