To: tejek who wrote (166257 ) 3/30/2003 12:38:11 PM From: i-node Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1583406 The 4th is still enroute two weeks after the war has started; Precisely as planned. As explained this morning, the war plan called for being able to adapt to either a long or a short war. Thus, a "rolling" deployment was planned. Why have the 4th sitting uselessly in the South when they can't be employed, effectively cutting the length of time they can be used when they are called on? This seems, to my untrained eye, a brilliant use of force -- not unlike JIT inventory that has been so successful in large businesses.there is no northern front to speak of which allows the Syrians, Kurds and Iranians [and maybe the Turks] to play with us and do what they want to do There is no evidence this has been a problem. I think it was reasonable for them to hold out hope the Turks would come around; but they have adjusted marvelously to the fact that they haven't. They now have the necessary airfields to deal with the lack of a Northern front.we don't have enough troops to adequately guard an unusually long supply line causing more casualties You must be nuts!!! Nobody could have envisioned the minimal number of casualties they have sustained in this regard as of today. Nobody.we counted on the Shiites to take up arms and fight with us instead they remain passive We certainly did not "count on" them. Where have you seen any indication we expected them to "take up arms"? We hoped they would be able to be more helpful at this point, but I've seen no indication we were "counting" on them.and shock and awe failed to do what we had hoped I'm not sure what we hoped. I think we did use propanganda appropriately to attempt to save lives. It hasn't worked, but that in no way represents a failure of the 'war plan'.to so demoralize the Iraqis in Bagdad [sic] that they would quit early on. That would have been easy, but as Rumsfeld said a couple of weeks ago -- they have to be more scared of us than they are of the guy holding the gun to their head. In reality, they will be demoralized by days and days of bombing in their dug-in positions. When these guys hear 500 lb bombs killing the people in the next bunker, day after day, night after night, it is a known military fact that they WILL lose their determination to fight.that's a lot to have go wrong in two weeks. Out of the things you listed, not one of them is correctly classified as "something that went wrong". I was never in the military, but in my reading of history, had ALL of the things you listed been things that had "gone wrong", this war to date would still be remarkably successful.