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To: LLCF who wrote (30438)	3/30/2003 10:19:22 PM
From: elmatador	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Haven't though about that. But extending your point: One when attacked, can say I can throw moral standards plus rules of engagement to the wind because it would be accepted, as the case of Iraq seem to be. You make good point by saying lets stick to the UN as a mean to solve those disputes. Problem is the military castes all over the planet don't want to relinquish their status as "problem solvers" (neither the money that comes with it) and the nation-state doesn't see to rely on a supranational body to solve their problems. Look to the UN, the guys there are appointed by their governments not because they are able to help soving probelms it is just a small sweet to an old politician, or a senator who lost an election that sort of cushy job for an old fellow. In short leadership inside the UN is weak. Need upgrade for the task ahead.

To: LLCF who wrote (30438)	3/30/2003 10:22:43 PM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

It is an interesting point. Consider that now in these conflicts the US assumes victory will be swift and relatively bloodless on the US side thanks to technology (gee a war bubble). Consider then that it not a moral issue but a lower risk to US troops issue. I find it interesting to note that the US is miffed at Canada (and the US ambassador just keeps going on about it). On Sept 9 1939 Canada declared war on Germany. Everyone was afraid of Germany. On Sept 5 1939 America declared its neutrality. Funny how shoes change feet.