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To: Lane3 who wrote (546)3/31/2003 12:50:24 PM
From: zonder  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 7833
 
Put simply, I have not heard nor can I conceive of any "graceful way out."

I don't know of any, either, but perhaps that is because nobody is trying to find one? I mean, if they really wanted to, do you doubt that the same people who prepared the world for this war can also prepare it for a graceful exit?

How about getting together an Iraqi group, complete with a tentative government of clan representatives (Kurds, Shias, etc) "There is now an Iraqi resistance and we support them, but as we never had any colonialist intentions (especially for the oil), we now leave but continue to support them."?

That is just me. I am not a strategist and I am sure if they wanted to, American think tanks and the strategists in the administration can come up with better.

My question was about your statement that going on with the war is better than an exit. Given the risks you are well aware of, I was wondering why you do not seek to end it.

Even if (and I do not think this likely) there is no graceful exit, any exit will only mean that the current administration loses face and is doomed. It will be a triumph of Americans' will over their government. It is not necessarily a bad thing. Given the risks, I do not see that saving the Bush administration is worth dooming Americans for lasting ill will and increased terrorism.



To: Lane3 who wrote (546)3/31/2003 2:03:43 PM
From: epicure  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 7833
 
I thought of something I would like our country to do. I would like them to go to the UN, and I would like them to say "We blew it. We shouldn't have gone in without you guys. We were arrogant and stupid. On the other hand, we're there now. We apologize to the world- now will you please help us out of this mess? We're a hugely powerful country, but even, and perhaps especially, hugely powerful countries make mistakes. Now what are we going to do about it?"

I think the world would respond. When you are the strongest, biggest kid on the block, sometimes saying you've made a mistake isn't the worst thing you can do- not if you think you might want other kids to play with you.