To: Barry Grossman who wrote (173938 ) 4/2/2003 7:24:16 PM From: Road Walker Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894 Barry, re: Where did I talk about justification for the war? I read justification into the following:"We Americans have very high ideals of freedom, liberty and justice and because of that, we have a lot of problems in this world. That doesn't mean we should change our ideals. Sometimes we have to defend them." Pardon if my assumption was wrong. re: What I think is that we have the right to defend our national security and that is what I think we are doing in Iraq. I guess you don't. We have different views on national security it seems to me. Now you are talking about justification, right? Of course I think we have "the right" to defend our national security. I think we have the obligation. In the course of thing as they were going, the government and people of Iraq posed absolutely no threat to our national security. SH wasn't prone to terrorism, the nation was essentially neutered by it's economic and political isolation. Now I think that has probably changed. I think that we are much more likely , in the decades to come, to be a victim of an freshly converted Iraqi terrorist. We were/are threatened much more by a dozen other countries. What was the administrations fixation on Iraq? We celebrate the saving of one life; are we equally morning the deaths of the 11 other folks found at the same location? How about all the other young kids that have died. The many times more Iraqi civilians, whose only crime was trying to get by in a miserable country. The odds of an American dying in a terrorist attack are ~97,000,000 to one. We've got ~120,000 kids in Iraq, ~50 have died, so far. Probably the odds of an American dying of an Iraqi terrorist attach, before this thing started, was 0 in whatever trillion. So on we go. What is the next threat to our national security? Korea, Iran? Saudi Arabia is as guilty as any for 9/11. How about China, Venezuela; those Columbian terrorist are worse than any that Iraq has produced. In a GWB go it alone, who cares about anyone, black & white world, post-NATO and post-UN, where do you draw the line? What's the agenda and how long do you support it? John