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To: Kip518 who wrote (16184)4/2/2003 10:53:14 AM
From: lurqer  Respond to of 89467
 
Are you stupefied yet? Are you waving your flag?

“If you once forfeit the confidence of your fellow citizens, you can never regain their respect and esteem. It is true that you may fool all of the people some of the time; you can even fool some of the people all of the time; but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time.”

A. Lincoln 1865

lurqer



To: Kip518 who wrote (16184)4/2/2003 1:04:37 PM
From: NOW  Respond to of 89467
 
great piece and he is spot on.



To: Kip518 who wrote (16184)4/2/2003 1:58:18 PM
From: Jim Willie CB  Respond to of 89467
 
we are so far winning the military war, losing PR war

as we occupy Iraqi lands, oversee their vast oil fields, we give off every appearance of an occupying army

as we unseat Saddam and paralyze his regime, we also destroy their beautiful capital city

as we meet the needs for water & food, we look good
but we are seen as meeting a need which we created by our very presence and attacks

Arab nations are slowly erupting
while we pat ourselves on the back for decimating the Iraqi military, which has no airforce, no longer benefits from radar installations, and has great trouble with communications...
let's not forget that Arab television networks are showing scores of wounded and killed women, children, and unarmed men from our bombings

welcome to the digital warfare world
there is a second war out there, and we are losing badly
it has nothing to do with military objectives
just yesterday I heard an interview of an expert who claimed that USForces will soon be forced to tolerate much higher civilian casualties...
IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE OUR MILITARY OBJECTIVES
we care much less about PR among Arab neighbors

an Arab woman in London reported from her news bureau that Arab people point to hypocrisy
Israel owns weapons of mass destruction, nuclear weapons, and chemical weapons
but that is ok

we continue the delusion
we believe after we secure Iraq's nation from Saddam, that its citizens will love us
they wont
they will point to the destruction, demand we give back their oil fields, ask us to leave their military bases, and demand we leave their country

we will help with repairing oil fields, provided we never leave them, and are gauranteed oil purchases
we will help repair their country's buildings, provided they permit a US puppet leader

we will never leave their airbases or military bases, never
we will justify it as securing stability to the region
after all, that was a primary objective of the war

/ jim