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To: Neeka who wrote (89424)4/3/2003 12:29:45 AM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
I gave some serious thought to hoping we would arrive to a more friendly Baghdad.


It is impossible to know the "Tipping Point." The Iraq Generals must know it is over. They have family in Baghdad. How bad do they want to make it?

BTW, for the "doubting thomas" types on this thread who want to see dancing Iraqis with flowers,

let them go to Najaf!

WASHINGTON POST
In Najaf
Jubilant Crowds Greet Troops Near Shrine

An enthusiastic welcome for U.S. forces in Najaf turned jubilant today, as several thousand Iraqis braved sporadic firefights for what one Special Forces officer described as "the Macy's Day parade," applauding a U.S. patrol that pushed close to a religious shrine at the center of the city.

Four days after encircling Najaf, the 101st Airborne Division tightened the occupation today. Three infantry battalions rolled through the streets, including neighborhoods around the venerated tomb of Ali, son-in-law of the prophet Muhammad. A company of 14 M1 Abrams tanks clanked up and down the southern boulevards, and another brigade of several thousand troops cinched the cordon on the north, seizing arms caches and swapping fire with elusive gunmen who are now believed to number no more than a few score.

In the midst of the fighting, a U.S. patrol approached Ali's tomb attempting to contact local clerics but were met instead by a crowd. Lt. Col. Chris Hughes, a battalion commander in the 1st Brigade, said, "We waited about an hour and a half, and the hair on the back of my neck began to stand up. The crowd got bigger and bigger, so we pulled back out. But it was like the liberation of Paris."
washingtonpost.com



To: Neeka who wrote (89424)4/3/2003 12:36:36 AM
From: kumar  Respond to of 281500
 
it would be helpful to know how many regular and special Iraqi army forces have simply thrown down their guns, and gone home.

The people who know, wont/cant talk. The people who talk, dont know.



To: Neeka who wrote (89424)4/3/2003 12:37:36 AM
From: Sig  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
<<I don't suppose it is possible, but it would be helpful to know how many regular and special Iraqi army forces have simply thrown down their guns, and gone home.>>>
Yup, quite a few according to this ....
Others are like bear hunters, they shoot once, drop gun and run

<Marines taking the bridge at Numaniya Wednesday met little resistance and found the side of the road littered with abandoned Iraqi military uniforms. "It looks like a lot of guys threw off their boots and threw off their uniforms and got the hell out," said Lt. Michael Belcher of the 5th Marine Regiment. One man tore off his Iraqi army uniform and donned a brown robe. Marines quickly seized him. >

story.news.yahoo.com
Sig