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Politics : Stop the War! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Mike M who wrote (7091)	4/3/2003 10:59:46 AM
From: zonder	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 21614

OK I printed it and will read it later on. only when the interest and the study is your own will you be open to truth You think I have not read into the subject? I have seen no evidence. Just wondering whether you guys have any, that's all.

To: Mike M who wrote (7091)	4/3/2003 1:38:05 PM
From: E. T.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 21614

"faith will eventually have to be an essential part of any revelation" Nonsense, there's no revelation to be had in faith, imo. The "true" path lies either through knowledge or grace, more likely the latter. Faith is for people who can't think for themselves who seek refuge from reality. ...But to apprehend The point of intesection of the timeless With time, is an occupation for the saint -- No occupation either, but something given And taken, in a lifetime's death in love, Ardour and selflessness and self-surrender. Said Eliot in Dry Salvages.