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To: FiloF who wrote (69199)	4/3/2003 12:24:26 PM
From: Gary Ng	Respond to of 70976

Re: If a member of al Qaeda was found in US custody with similar injuries, and the Muslim press suggested torture, would you have been just as quick to point out that torture was not likely I would say that quicker(not torture) as the rule is more strict for US. They would pass on those 'difficult intelligent gathering' jobs to their allies :-)

To: FiloF who wrote (69199)	4/4/2003 2:40:25 AM
From: zonder	Respond to of 70976

If a member of al Qaeda was found in US custody with similar injuries, and the Muslim press suggested torture, would you have been just as quick to point out that torture was not likely? Yes. Of course. You may have noticed that mine was a critical analysis of known injuries and not an opinion as to the personalities or ideologies of the captive and her alleged "torturers". I have not seen anything that suggested torture of Al-Qaeda & Taliban prisoners held by the US. However, I do have doubts regarding the legality of their status, especially re Geneva Conventions. And, I suppose you know that two prisoners died because of heavy beating. It does not look like torture from what we know, but homicide of suspects in custody is not "nice", either: news.independent.co.uk America admits suspects died in interrogations By Andrew Gumbel in Los Angeles 07 March 2003 American military officials acknowledged yesterday that two prisoners captured in Afghanistan in December had been killed while under interrogation at Bagram air base north of Kabul – reviving concerns that the US is resorting to torture in its treatment of Taliban fighters and suspected al-Qa'ida operatives. A spokesman for the air base confirmed that the official cause of death of the two men was "homicide", contradicting earlier accounts that one had died of a heart attack and the other from a pulmonary embolism. The men's death certificates, made public earlier this week, showed that one captive, known only as Dilawar, 22, from the Khost region, died from "blunt force injuries to lower extremities complicating coronary artery disease" while another captive, Mullah Habibullah, 30, suffered from blood clot in the lung that was exacerbated by a "blunt force injury".