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To: KLP who wrote (90107)4/5/2003 4:23:28 AM
From: Maurice Winn  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 281500
 
<Saddam had MONTHS to comply, or surrender. He chose not to do either, and is DIRECTLY to blame for every single casualty, no matter which side it came from. >

That's absurd. Though under Might Makes Right laws of the jungle, under which we still live, the victors can declare any absurdity they like and declare anyone they like to be guilty of crimes against humanity, war crimes, etc.

The people responsible for somebody's death are the people who worked to make it happen. That would include the person who pulled the trigger, the aimer, the target selector, the negligent person who didn't bother to correctly put the 'smart' in the smart bomb and produced a stupid bomb. Etc.

If some American soldier casually shot an innocent woman or child because he realized he could get away with it in the convenient 'fog' of battle and happened to have such a malevolent state of mind and wanted to get revenge for the 11 September attacks, and you can be sure there are at least a few viciously horrible people concealed in the gun-firing ranks, then he is solely guilty of the crime, not Saddam and not his USA commanding officers.

Mqurice



To: KLP who wrote (90107)4/5/2003 6:46:20 AM
From: Sig  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
<<<Greeley might want to review the last several months. Saddam had MONTHS to comply, or surrender. He chose not to do either, and is DIRECTLY to blame for every single casualty, no matter which side it came from. >>
Absolutely.And it began with the general education system permitted or implemented in the country of the past 30 years and the preaching that faith can overwhelm earthly sciences and immovable objects, both of which were controlled by Saddam and his henchmen.
I understand that Iraqi drivers drive like crazies , apparently feeling that faith and praying 5 times a day will prevent them from being killed if they run into a cement wall at 80kph. Or that if they do get killed it was merely Allahs will.
Saddam was full of huff and puff and bluff from day one of his regime.
Finally met a man he could not bluff, then could not buy his way out though favors owed to him by the Russians,French,and Germans.
Thought he could merely buy his way to military power by purchasing weapons and putting them into untrained hand and showing them how to pull the trigger.
Find 5 of the dumbest Americans you ever met and put them in one car. The driver says "Lets ram thatTank thats shooting a 50 caliber machine at us and maybe we can blow it up and get a medal from GWB, or at least join Allah"
Education tells them that they are not , absolutely and completely, not -going to get a medal
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