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To: haqihana who wrote (2627)4/5/2003 12:47:17 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 2926
 
tejek, Perhaps you should read a bit of history, yourself. It was a Puritanic religious group that had the first intentions of controlling the Hawaiian Islands, and revert the happy islanders to a very severe Christian doctrine.(I am a Christian, but not a fanatical one). The offspring of those missionaries became quite wealthy on the backs of the people,(Dole being a prime example) and those families caused the Islands to become a territory of the U.S. The citizens of the Territory of Hawaii voted to become a bona fide state of the union.

Statehood came much later and was a twentieth century phenomenon. I am talking about circumstances in the 19th century when in 1893, under the threat of force, Queen Liliuokanlani surrendered her kingdom to the US military under protest.


Puerto Rico, and Cuba, which you forgot to mention, were acquired after the Spanish American War, and also included the Phillipines. I am not sure, but I think Guam, and Wake Island, were also in that package. Any of the other islands we took in the Pacific, were liberated from the Japanese invaders, and we were welcomed by the inhabitants. If you want to speak of acquiring territory in war, you must add the areas that are now the states of New Mexico, Arizona, California, Utah, and Nevada, taken from the Mexican nation. And as always, I must protest the rape, and murder, of tens of thousands of the aboriginal human natives of North, and South America, known as the Indians.


Mr. Powell's comments suggested wars outside the US that's why I didn't include continguous lands within the US acquired through military combat.

Again, the basic premise was that the US fights wars beyond its immediate borders and takes no land in return. Puerto Rico and the Pacific islands are examples of that premise not being true.

In other words, we are not quite the saints as depicted by Mr. Powell.

None of that smacks of Imperialism.

Maybe not to you but don't be surprised if the residents of 19th century Guam, Hawaii and Puerto Rico don't agree with you.

Especially considering that at the end of WW2, we could have taken control of the entire world, and chose to rebuild the defeated nations with our own money instead. That is hardly an example of Imperialism.

Agreed......we have done both good and bad in our history.