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To: pezz who wrote (30834)	4/5/2003 9:19:13 PM
From: Moominoid	Respond to of 74559

These tapes are not done by the military but by the embedded news men themselves I mean all the tapes shown at Pentagon briefings of perfect hits on targets etc. Plus statements which are either "spin" or psychological warfare against Iraq. We saw the same thing in the first Gulf War. I don't think the US/UK military try to confuse their public on purpose, but I want to get a real idea of what is actually happening and I don't think some of the US and UK media are thinking critically enough. They tend to put further spin on things themselves. Every finding of protective suits or antidotes for nerve gas or whatever is heralded by the media as "proof of WMDs" and then the claim is more quietly withdrawn.

To: pezz who wrote (30834)	4/5/2003 10:51:16 PM
From: elmatador	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Not a single city in invaders control. Even the harbour of UM Qsar, the first to be hit, is still not operational and -this morning- the Australian are still diving for clear it up form mines. Apart from the cities in the north, which before the war were under control of minority Kurds, no single city is under total control of the invaders. The British -who like to pat themselves in their own back that they are goog at this because of fighting the IRA in N. Ireland- are around Basra for 17 days. Now do you think Bagdahd is going to fall just because of the propaganbda coup of a couple of armored vehicles dribing down town? You know that the drive into Bagdad' proximity is just a propaganda coup, don't you? Why, having better night vision eqt. the invaders drove into Bagdahd at broad day light? I tell you: Just to weak the resolve of the population. Truth is: No city fell totally under the cotrol of the invaders.