To: 49thMIMOMander who wrote (2875 ) 4/5/2003 4:21:31 PM From: verdad Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 9255 "It is true that monkeys sometimes have the habit, but only when they have been taught it by vile men or boys." Actually, if you have the opportunity, read Jane Goodall's memoir entitled "Reason For Hope" and you will find that due to what Goodall describes as "cultural speciation" (formerly termed psuedo speciation), chimpanzees do actually sometimes brutally attack each other in the wild (typically in groups). It was something Goodall was shocked to observe, but yet also helped her to understand what occurred during her childhood in WWII. In response to your last question, some believe the planned, malicious horrors perpetrated by certain groups of humans often goes far beyond that in the animal kingdom due to things like indoctrination, mind control and other types of abuses that only those trained in psychological warfare can perpetuate (CIA, KGB, Hitler's SS Troops). The ruling class, to stay in power, uses the non-integris when they fear losing control. This is why it is again, to some, curiously strange and pathetically hypocrytical that QCOM would employ former CIA agents when the founders of the company (Viterbi, Jacobs) were Jewish (and Viterbi's parents narrowly escaped Nazi Germany). Or, given the explanation above, why it is perfectly understandable. Everyone is human and acts on emotion, knowingly or unknowingly. The ego allows all to rationalize actions, especially if they overcame perceived injustice, or had been relatively successful in the eyes of the current status quo that exists. To many, reality simply exists, it is not subject to personal human emotion. To survive in an industry where bribary, political coercion and deception are commonplace, QCOM is probably relatively saintly. So goes the story of humanity. History repeats itself and that is why empires rise and fall.