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To: PartyTime who wrote (8403)	4/6/2003 10:40:41 AM
From: Emile Vidrine	Respond to of 21614

The Israeli Murder and martyrdome of American Rachel Corrie RACHEL CORRIE Articles below are about 23-year old American Rachel Corrie, who was murdered by Israelis -- intentionally crushed by a bulldozer -- as she sought to defend a Palestinian home from Israeli army demolition. Excerpts from Corrie's email correspondents with her mother about what she had learned while aiding the oppressed: Hi friends and family, and others, I have been in Palestine for two weeks and one hour now, and I still have very few words to describe what I see. It is most difficult for me to think about what's going on here when I sit down to write back to the United States. Something about the virtual portal into luxury. I don't know if many of the children here have ever existed without tank-shell holes in their walls and the towers of an occupying army surveying them constantly from the near horizons. I think, although I'm not entirely sure, that even the smallest of these children understand that life is not like this everywhere. An eight-year-old was shot and killed by an Israeli tank two days before I got here, and many of the children murmur his name to me - Ali - or point at the posters of him on the walls. The children also love to get me to practice my limited Arabic by asking me, "Kaif Sharon?" "Kaif Bush?" and they laugh when I say, "Bush Majnoon", "Sharon Majnoon" back in my limited arabic. (How is Sharon? How is Bush? Bush is crazy. Sharon is crazy.) Of course this isn't quite what I believe, and some of the adults who have the English correct me: "Bush mish Majnoon" ... Bush is a businessman. Today I tried to learn to say, "Bush is a tool", but I don't think it translated quite right. But anyway, there are eight-year-olds here much more aware of the workings of the global power structure than I was just a few years ago. Nevertheless, no amount of reading, attendance at conferences, documentary viewing and word of mouth could have prepared me for the reality of the situation here. You just can't imagine it unless you see it - and even then you are always well aware that your experience of it is not at all the reality: what with the difficulties the Israeli army would face if they shot an unarmed US citizen, and with the fact that I have money to buy water when the army destroys wells, and the fact, of course, that I have the option of leaving. Nobody in my family has been shot, driving in their car, by a rocket launcher from a tower at the end of a major street in my hometown. I have a home. I am allowed to go see the ocean. When I leave for school or work I can be relatively certain that there will not be a heavily armed soldier waiting halfway between Mud Bay and downtown Olympia at a checkpoint with the power to decide whether I can go about my business, and whether I can get home again when I'm done. As an afterthought to all this rambling, I am in Rafah: a city of about 140,000 people, approximately 60% of whom are refugees - many of whom are twice or three times refugees. Today, as I walked on top of the rubble where homes once stood, Egyptian soldiers called to me from the other side of the border, "Go! Go!" because a tank was coming. And then waving and "What's your name?". Something disturbing about this friendly curiosity. It reminded me of how much, to some degree, we are all kids curious about other kids. Egyptian kids shouting at strange women wandering into the path of tanks. Palestinian kids shot from the tanks when they peak out from behind walls to see what's going on. International kids standing in front of tanks with banners. Israeli kids in the tanks anonymously - occasionally shouting and also occasionally waving - many forced to be here, many just agressive - shooting into the houses as we wander away. jewishtribalreview.org

To: PartyTime who wrote (8403)	4/6/2003 10:42:06 AM
From: eims2000	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 21614

Americans are ignoring you PartyTime. And your thread which even you have to admit has become nothing but a conduit for Saddam's propaganda, intended or not. You sound like the dying Saddam regime now, franticly trying to avoid defeat. Debating a war is one thing, but aiding the enemy during a war is something else all together. Stop being a coward and have some backbone to admit that you were hoping that the Americans would be defeated and Bush humiliated. Many here have asked you the same question and all you have done is squirm and lie and twist, very much like Saddam and his information ministry. The resemblance is errie. Not much time left for either of you two and your ramblings, the conclusion of the war draws near. Go ahead and kick me off your Iraq Information Ministry thread you created.