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To: RON BL who wrote (386786)4/6/2003 8:45:53 PM
From: CYBERKEN  Respond to of 769667
 
And as a bonus, one of the Palistinian's major sources of weapons and terrorist explosives, as well as the $$ bonus source for Palistinians who sell their kids as bombs, is now in American hands.

We should now close off the Gulf of Persia and inspect, in detail, every ship going out of Iran. If they don't like it, we can always nuke Tehran and see how the like THAT...



To: RON BL who wrote (386786)4/6/2003 8:49:46 PM
From: CYBERKEN  Respond to of 769667
 
Complete control of the Persian Gulf, as well as the pipelines running from Iraq to Jordan and Syria can offer us "leverage" on those governments to better cooperate against the terrorist region.

We should also seize Al Jackoffa's facilities in Qatar, and broadcast an Arab-language version of FOX News to the region's cities.

Seizing the other enemy media center, CNN in Atlanta, would also be a good idea...



To: RON BL who wrote (386786)4/6/2003 9:25:00 PM
From: Skywatcher  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667
 
Banned Iraqi Weapons Might Be Hard to Find
By Barton Gellman
Washington Post

Saturday 05 April 2003

Suspicious Sites Provide No Proof Yet

U.S. forces in Iraq yesterday found sites and substances they described as suspected
components of a forbidden Iraqi weapons program. But the discoveries that U.S. troops displayed,
and the manner in which they were described at a Central Command briefing, struck experts in
and out of government as ambiguous at best.

Iraq has the most extensive petrochemical industry in the Middle East and a wealth of vaccine
factories, single-cell protein research labs, medical and veterinary manufacturing centers and
water treatment plants. Nearly all of them are dual-use facilities, capable of civilian or military
employment, but most were devoted to legitimate activity even at the height of Iraq's secret
weapons programs.

Moving warily through that industrial landscape, U.S. and allied ground forces will inevitably
find, as U.N. inspectors have found since 1991, thousands of potential weapons sites but few, if
any, that could be nothing else. Iraq's continued concealment of such weapons is the allegation
at the core of the Bush administration's case for war. If the hunt for them relies on that sort of
survey, experienced investigators said, it faces a long road to an uncertain result.

In the first of yesterday's discoveries, the 3rd Infantry Division entered the vast Qa Qaa
chemical and explosives production plant and came across thousands of vials of white powder,
packed three to a box. The engineers also found stocks of atropine and pralidoxime, also known
as 2-PAM chloride, which can be used to treat exposure to nerve agents but is also used to treat
poisoning by organic phosphorus pesticides. Alongside those materials were documents written
in Arabic that, as interpreted at the scene, appeared to include discussions of chemical warfare.

This morning, however, investigators said initial tests indicated the white powder was not a
component of a chemical weapon. "On first analysis it does not appear to be a chemical that
could be used in a chemical weapons attack," Col. John Peabody, commander of the division's
engineering brigade, told a Reuters reporter with his unit.

U.N. inspectors have surveyed Qa Qaa some two dozen times, most recently last month. But
some 1,000 structures there, organized into 10 or more factory complexes, have mainly been
devoted to such conventional military industries as explosives and missile fuels. Neither is
forbidden under U.N. Security Council mandates. Qa Qaa was last linked to proscribed activity in
1995 -- and somewhat peripherally then.

"Based on [the powder and antidotes] you couldn't form any real judgment," said Terence
Taylor of Britain, a former inspector with the U.N. Special Commission (UNSCOM). "It is a place
where there would be a lot of chemicals, not necessarily related to chemical or biological
weapons. More likely in that place it would relate to some form of rocket propellant."

"I'm afraid what we're in for," he said, is a "long-term task" pushed forward by "the political
concern and pressure to find hard evidence of weapons of mass destruction that you can show."

Brig. Gen. Vincent K. Brooks, briefing reporters at Central Command headquarters in Qatar,
said he had no details on the suspicious powder but said that "certainly it's an item of interest."

But Brooks volunteered another discovery in western Iraq. Special Operations troops raided a
building there "that we think now was probably an NBC training school," he said, referring to
nuclear, biological and chemical weapons.

Brooks said military commanders based that belief on a shelf of clear- and brown-glass bottles
with yellow labels.

"Can we bring up the bottles?" he directed, calling for a photograph in his slide show.

"This is what we saw," he said. "One of them had been marked 'Tabun,' " a nerve agent
developed during World War II. The bottle, he said, contained a few drops of liquid.

He did not say whether tests showed the liquid to be the deadly chemical.

Iraq was obliged under U.N. resolutions to declare any stocks of nerve agent in its
possession. But a quantity measured in milliliters, U.S. government and U.N. experts said,
probably would not constitute a material breach of that obligation.

"There will be more and more alarms like this," said an expert on nerve poisons with long
experience in Iraq. "If you have a vial marked 'Tabun,' it could be simulant, it could be a sample
used for training purpose or for evaluation of protection equipment. . . . The regular procedure is to
put one drop on the surface of a material used in the production of a protection suit, and you
analyze the penetration of this drop through the material."

Chemical protection gear is permitted under the U.N. restrictions.

A serious find, the expert said, would involve "Tabun in a munition, or in bulk storage, or traces
of Tabun in a reaction vessel" of the sort used to manufacture the agent in quantity.

At part of the Qa Qaa facility, where the white powder appeared yesterday, UNSCOM ordered
the destruction of reactors, heat exchangers and storage vessels suspected of chemical weapons
production.

The weapons work had not taken place at that site, UNSCOM reported in the early 1990s, but
Iraq had moved the dual-use equipment from the Muthana chemical weapons site, about 80 miles
northwest of Baghdad, without declaring it. Under UNSCOM rules, the equipment was subject to
destruction.

The International Atomic Energy Agency also reported, after a 10-day visit in September 1995,
that Iraqi scientists acknowledged involvement of the Qa Qaa facility "in support of the
development of the implosion package" intended to detonate a nuclear weapon if Iraq acquired
highly enriched uranium.

U.S. officials overseeing the weapons hunt generally do not expect to make major finds at
sites previously identified as suspicious, noting that Iraq's documented history of concealment
relied on constant movement.

"There's lots we don't know about current whereabouts," Douglas J. Feith, undersecretary of
defense for policy, said in an interview. "That's going to be true until we have full control of the
country, and even a time thereafter."

He added: "If you have [custody of] the people who know everything, and they tell you
everything they know, then you could learn the whereabouts of everything very quickly. But if
those people aren't around, or they're dead, or they've organized things in such a way that nobody
has too much knowledge, it's going to take you awhile."
HARD TO FIND....
Because it's a BIG Friggin LIE from Bush and Blair....
invading a sovereign nation for lies and power
CC



To: RON BL who wrote (386786)4/6/2003 10:19:10 PM
From: J_F_Shepard  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667
 
"re: A South Baghdad terrorist training facility used before the 9/11 attacks to train al-Qaeda recruits to hijack American airliners using small knives was attacked by U.S. forces Saturday night."

Where in the article you posted does it supply any proof of what is claimed in the statement above?????