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To: Sun Tzu who wrote (90846)4/7/2003 3:47:55 AM
From: D. Long  Respond to of 281500
 
Derek are you for real? Can you really not see the point? If the Afghan government was really the rightful representative of Afghan people, then why were we trying to overthrow them

We weren't trying to overthrow them because they weren't the "rightful representative of the Afghan people". How naive. We were opposing the Soviets. Period.

And Pakistanis were the direct official patrons of the "insurrection"? What a joke! Since when Pakistan has the clout to face to a super power only a few hindered miles from its borders?

And finally you said, "The mujahadeen were tools of Pakistan." And that is wrong. They were the tools of US and that was the problem. Because they did not see themselves as mindless tools. Some of them actually had the expectation that after helping America bring its biggest enemy to its knees, they will at least get to have a say in something as big as conditions of ceasefire.


Yes. Pakistan. The mujahadeen were the product of the Pakistani ISI. We were not "officially involved." That's why it was such a big deal to keep it all "sly" with the Stingers, and why the CIA went shopping for weapons to pass through Pakistan to the mujahadeen. The mujahadeen weren't using M16s, if you didn't notice. They were using surplus rifles scrounged from the warehouses of every nation that would sell em.

Asking the mujahadeen to the Geneva agreements would have been like, to extend my analogy, inviting the Viet Cong to the Vietnam ceasefire talks.

Now if you can't get this, then I have nothing more to add.

Ditto.

Derek