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To: Land Shark who wrote (387781)4/8/2003 9:12:24 AM
From: George Coyne  Respond to of 769670
 
YOU presume to tell US what OUR society is about? You're a joke!



To: Land Shark who wrote (387781)4/8/2003 9:14:17 AM
From: PROLIFE  Respond to of 769670
 
the reddest of the rednecks????

what does that mean? How would you know?? LOL



To: Land Shark who wrote (387781)4/8/2003 9:18:17 AM
From: JakeStraw  Respond to of 769670
 
Canadian rally backs U.S.
Saturday 5th April, 2003 | Big News Network.com

A freak spring ice storm only slightly dampened the enthusiasm and turnout at a Pro-America rally held in the heart of Canada's financial district Friday.

Some 2,000 shivering and chanting people draped in Canadian and U.S. flags milled in front of Toronto's City Hall in a show of support for the U.S.-led coalition's war against Iraq.

The organizers of the rally, Friends of America, told the crowd they were part of the silent majority of Canadians who support the United States and the war. Various speakers evoked cheers saying Prime Minister Jean Chretien's Liberal government does not reflect national sentiment.

One Liberal Member of Parliament was soundly booed during her explanation of how Canada and the United States could remain on friendly terms without fighting a war together. When she began speaking in French -- Canada's second official language -- the catcalls became obscene.

The most prominent speaker at the rally was Ontario Premier Ernie Eves, a conservative who has been very vocal in denouncing Canada's decision not to participate in the war.

Friendship is a commitment, Eves said Friendship is not a commitment just for good times -- friendship is a commitment to be there when times are difficult and times are tough. ... We should be standing by our American friends now.

Those attending varied in age from late 20s to seniors, with numerous Canadian war veterans wearing their dress blazers with berets and medals. There were no parents with young children to be seen.

Among the mass-produced and hand-fashioned banners were messages such as Chretien resign, Give war a chance, and Chretien doesn't speak for me.

Since the United States, Britain and Australia in the region sent troops into Iraq on March 20, there have been small but widespread rallies across Canada, all of which had a dual focus: support for Canada's biggest trading partner and ally, and disdain for the government's decision not to send troops into action. Last weekend, more than 5,000 gathered at Parliament Hill in Ottawa to wave U.S. flags and decry the government's position.

Chretien waffled repeatedly on whether Canada would participate until the war began, citing a lack of a formal resolution by the United Nations. And this week, Liberal members of Parliament introduced a motion reaffirming Canada's stand that Washington should have had U.N. backing before going to war. Observers said the motion was likely to pass.

Meanwhile, nearly 1,000 Canadian soldiers remain deployed in Afghanistan in active combat roles.

The Toronto rally was peaceful, although a heavy contingent of police was present. Some 50 anti-war protesters arrived with posters and masks of President George Bush. They were surrounded by police, presumably to avoid any physical confrontations. Eight officers on horseback also stood at the ready nearby.

Friends of America was founded only nine days ago by about a dozen Canadians dismayed by the consequences of Canada's inaction. Among them is Raymond Heard, a communications consultant who served as communications director for Prime Minister John Turner -- a Liberal.

We (supporters) are the majority in Canada and we're proud of it, Heard said. We hope and we pray that the Americans win this war quickly.

Much was made by speakers at the rally about remarks made by a Liberal member of Parliament who didn't realize she was being quoted by reporters last month. As the Bush administration was seeking support for the war effort, Caroline Parrish uttered that she hated those bastards.

A gray-haired woman sporting the flags of both countries from her lapels, Lois Nealy said she braved the weather out of disgust at those remarks by an elected official.



To: Land Shark who wrote (387781)4/8/2003 9:21:51 AM
From: PROLIFE  Respond to of 769670
 
Hey yelps,

think if I sent two one way tickets to Iraq to you and this Iman below, you could find your way to Baghdad? He sure wants to go, and could use your help...

****

OPERATION: IRAQI FREEDOM

Canadian imam supports jihad against U.S.

Muslim leader 'would fight the Americans with my nails and teeth'

Posted: April 8, 2003
By Art Moore
© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

A North American Muslim leader says he supports Saddam Hussein's call for jihad and believes Middle East Muslims should take up arms to expel U.S. troops from Iraq.

"If I were there, I would fight with them," said Gamal Solaiman, imam of the mosque in Canada's capital, Ottawa.

"I would fight the Americans with my nails and teeth," he declared Sunday in an interview with the CanWest News Service.

Middle East scholar Daniel Pipes told WorldNetDaily he does not recall hearing such explicit support for holy war against the U.S. from any other North American cleric.

"This statement is an overt manifestation of something that typically stays overt, and as such it is useful as a sign of the beliefs in at least some mosques," said Pipes, director of the Philadelphia-based Middle East Forum.

Solaiman's interview came after an appearance on the Canadian current affairs television show "Ottawa Inside Out."

On that program, he expressed support for the call for a jihad against the United States issued by Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and many Middle Eastern religious leaders.

"I do [support the jihad]," Solaiman told the television panel. "Because to my mind [the U.S.-led action] is not a war for justice. It is not a war for principle."

On April 1, Iraq's information minister read a statement purportedly from Saddam Hussein that declared: "The aggression that the aggressors are carrying out against the stronghold of faith is an aggression on the religion, the wealth, the honor and the soul and an aggression on the land of Islam."

"Therefore, jihad is a duty in confronting them," said the statement, read by Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf in a national television broadcast.

Al-Sahhaf added: "Those who are martyred will be rewarded in heaven. Seize the opportunity, my brothers."

Not on American soil

Solaiman clarified that he does not advocate terrorist attacks against Americans on U.S. soil.

"Not every American is against Arabs," he said. "So it is not open to go and kill Americans. No. The Americans who are coming to kill you, yes, you can face them to defend your country."

He added, "When any Arab goes to America and makes mischief, that is totally objectionable."

Solaiman said Middle East Muslims should fight alongside Saddam because, he believes, Iraq is only the first step in an American plan to overthrow Arab countries.

The imam maintained that a Muslim should not support coalition troops even if he is opposed to Saddam's regime.

"He can join to fight against the Americans, and after that he can settle his accounts with Saddam Hussein," Solaiman said.

David Pratt, chairman of Canada's House of Commons defense committee, said he was worried about Solaiman's comments, according to the Montreal Gazette.

"He certainly appears to be encouraging those in the region to be widening the conflict," the Liberal Member of Parliament said.

Raeed Tayeh, public affairs director of the Muslim American Society in Washington, D.C., insisted that Solaiman's support of jihad against the U.S. is not the policy of 99 percent of American Muslims, though most oppose the war in Iraq.

"We are in loyal opposition," he told WND. "We are Americans ... to call for a jihad against Americans would be to call for a jihad against ourselves."

'Jihad becomes a duty'

Pipes noted that calls for holy war are common among Muslim leaders in Europe, including England, where Solaiman was the Imam of London's Central Mosque for 20 years before coming to Ottawa in 1998.

In February, a London sheik known for his inflammatory sermons against the West was removed from his position at the Finsbury Park mosque. Egyptian-born Sheikh Abu Hamza al-Masri said after the Columbia shuttle disaster that the spacecraft was "a trinity of evil against Islam" because it had Americans, an Israeli and a Hindu on board.

Solaiman was a professor at the Al-Azhar University in Cairo, the Aligarh Muslim University in India and the Muslim College in London.

Last month, Islamic scholars at Al-Azhar, considered the most powerful moral voice of the world's Sunni Muslims, declared the U.S. war in Iraq a "new crusade."

"According to Islamic law, if the enemy steps on Muslim land, jihad becomes a duty of every male and female Muslim," the university's Islamic Research Academy said in a statement.

Arabs and Muslims must be ready to defend themselves and Islam, the scholars said.

"Our Arab and Islamic nation, and even our faith, are a main target of all these military buildups," said the statement.

Along with Sunni sheiks, Shiite imams also are calling for a holy war at Friday prayer services across the Middle East, according to monitors such at the Middle East Media Research Institute.

In response to the war in Iraq, Syria's leading Muslim authority, Sheik Ahmad Kaftaro, urged suicide bombers to head to Iraq.

"I call on Muslims everywhere to use all means possible to thwart the aggression, including martyr operations against the belligerent American, British and Zionist invaders."

The Syrian-based Palestinian terrorist group Islamic Jihad has vowed to send thousands of suicide bombers to Iraq to attack U.S. and British targets and to "fulfill the holy duty of defending Arab and Muslim land."

Muslim scholars in Saudi Arabia have urged youth to fight in defense of Iraq in spite of warnings on the country's state-controlled television to not support Saddam's regime.

As WorldNetDaily reported, a Baghdad sheik who hoisted a gun as he preached, called for Muslims and Arabs everywhere to engage in jihad against "Satan and his army," the coalition forces.

Sheik Abd al-Ghafour al-Qaysi said in a Friday sermon broadcast March 28 that it is the personal duty of every Muslim to engage in this jihad.

"To refrain from jihad today would constitute a violation of Allah's commands," he said. "It is a sin. Long live the jihad! The evil has arrived! The forces of disbelief have mobilized armies."

"This war has demonstrated who the men of faith are," the sheik said.