To: fedhead who wrote (16576 ) 4/9/2003 11:52:10 AM From: Dave Doriguzzi Respond to of 57684 In my opinion, for what it's worth, the market is either under-, over-, or appropriately valued based on current earnings and the prospect (or lack) of future earnings. Are the current earnings of whatever index you use more "peak" or "trough" earnings? From a bulls point of view it is like the old saw "buy cyclicals when the P/E's are high (depressed earnings) and sell them when the P/E's are low (peak earnings)" it doesn't sound right at first but the more you think about it, it makes sense. The bulls also believe, as Peter Lynch always used to say, that the US economy will always come back and that we will eventually recover on the earnings front. From a bears perspective, I think they believe (and I am kind of in this camp but not totally sure) that 9/11, China, post-internet bubble hangover, and certain other geopolitical/economic scenarios represent major disruptions to the US and that the current state of earnings may not improve much if at all and therefore the market is indeed overvalued and has futher to fall. Me, I think it boils down to the US's ability to continue to innovate and make money from doing so. Tech. hardware and software, biotech, pharma, other fields? One of my big concerns is China, they don't innovate much and they don't have high quality manufacturing but they copy and pirate like crazy and are becoming a real economic power. If you go into a WalMart (which I am loath to do) everything is made in China. How much will this encroach on the the US's main growth engines that I mentioned above. We have never seen a world where programming can be done over a network from India, Pakistan or the Phillipines. Or where Chinese made goods can be designed in the US or UK or wherever and shipped anywhere in almost real-time. Boy was that a ramble. I guess it depends on the glass half full or half empty argument. LOL