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To: tsigprofit who wrote (11264)4/9/2003 5:07:30 PM
From: Mike M  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 21614
 
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<<Iraqis Celebrate As U.S. Takes Baghdad
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By RAVI NESSMAN and DAVID ESPO, Associated Press Writers

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Liberated by U.S.-led troops, thousands of jubilant Iraqis celebrated the collapse of Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s murderous regime on Wednesday, beheading a toppled statue of their longtime ruler in the center of Baghdad and looting government sites.

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"He killed millions of us," said one young Iraqi, who spat on one of countless portraits of Saddam scattered throughout the capital. Women held up their babies so American soldiers riding on tanks could kiss them.

Iraqis released decades of pent-up fury as U.S. armored forces solidified their grip on the city. Marine tanks rolled to the eastern bank of the Tigris River; the Army was on the western side of the waterway that curls through the ancient city.

"We are not seeing any organized resistance," said Navy Capt. Frank Thorp at the U.S. Central Command. "The Iraqi military is unable to fight as an organized fighting force."

There was scattered combat, including at Baghdad University, where Iraqis were cornered, the river at their backs. There were clashes in the northeast part of the capital, as well as sporadic sniper fire.

Many Iraqis had clearly lost their fear of the ruling regime, brazenly entering government facilities and coming out with furniture, computers, air conditioners and even military jeeps.

The city's medical system was overrun with casualties, including 30 bodies and 250 wounded brought to the al-Kindi hospital.

Increasingly, American and British forces were turning their effort to humanitarian assistance in the southern part of the country, and their firepower on northern regions not yet under their control.

Warplanes bombed Tikrit, Saddam's birthplace about 100 miles north of the capital, in advance of ground forces moving in. American commandos and Kurdish peshmerga fighters seized a key mountaintop in northern Iraq (news - web sites), eliminating an Iraqi air defense installation near the government-held city of Mosul.

To the south, officials said the 1st Battalion Royal Irish Regiment had reached Qurnah, said to be the site of the biblical Garden of Eden and the birthplace of mankind. The troops were welcomed by cheering crowds of Ma'dan, marsh Arabs who have suffered genocide at the hands of Saddam.

Saddam's whereabouts remained a mystery, especially so since a bombing Monday night on a building where U.S. intelligence officials believed he and at least one of his sons were meeting. Russia's Foreign Ministry denied that the Iraqi leader had taken refuge in Moscow's embassy in Baghdad.

Administration officials cautioned that difficult and dangerous days may yet lie ahead for American and British forces. "This is not over, despite all the celebrating on the streets," said Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld. And Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said Iraqi death squads still exist in the western part of the country.

Like other officials, Rumsfeld said he did not know Saddam's whereabouts. But he said some unidentified "senior regime people are moving out of Iraq into Syria." Citing intelligence information, he added that some Iraqis are staying in Syria, while others are going on to other locations.

Iraq's U.N. ambassador told reporters that "the game is over and I hope peace will prevail." Mohammed Al-Douri's comments to reporters outside his residence in New York were the first admission by an Iraqi official that U.S.-led coalition troops had overwhelmed Saddam's forces. He said he has had no communications with Iraq for a long time because of the war.

Whether Saddam was living or dead, wounded or hoping to escape, the signs of his regime's collapse were everywhere.

For the first time since Operation Iraqi Freedom was launched three weeks ago, Information Minister Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf failed to appear before reporters with claims of glorious battlefield victories by Iraqi troops. And for the first time in decades, Iraqis were defacing images of the man who ruled brutally for nearly a quarter century.

One wall painting was spraypainted with black devil's horns, eyeglasses and a black chin beard.


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"We are relieved because for years we lived in anxiety and fear," said Shamoun George, a resident of Baghdad's Karrada district, as American troops entered the area.

"Bush, Bush, Thank you," chanted small bands of youth in Saddam City, a predominantly Shiite area of eastern Baghdad.

At the city center, a crowd gathered at the base of a large statue of Saddam inside al-Fardos (Paradise) Square. Several men climbed up a ladder, tied a thick rope around the statue like a noose, then tried to pull it over.

When that failed, the Marines brought an M88 tank recovery vehicle into position. A chain was attached to the statue, which was toppled to the cheers of watching Iraqis. Quickly, they swarmed over the downed icon, stomping it. Not long later, several men were seen dragging its severed head through the streets, and Iraqis used a sledgehammer to attack the pedestal where it once stood.

The scene was televised worldwide to an audience that included President Bush (news - web sites).

At the same time Baghdad rejoiced, celebration broke out in Irbil, far to the north. There, hundreds of men clapped and waved yellow flags, the banner of the Kurdistan Democratic Party.

There was joy, too, in the Kurdish city of Sulaymaniyah, base of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan.

That celebration, and statements by Baghdad residents to American reporters, underscored the complexity of establishing a postwar government in Iraq.

"We will never allow them to stay. Whatever he (Saddam) has done, he is a Muslim and we are a Muslim nation," said Ali al-Obeidim, a store owner in Baghdad.

Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair (news - web sites), as well as numerous officials in both countries, have made clear the forces will stay only as long as necessary.

Already, there have been signs of maneuvering for a place in the new government by exiles and others, and the Kurds have long sought creation of an independent Kurdistan to be carved from several countries. Complicating matters further, Germany and France, which opposed the war, have made clear they want a role for the United Nations (news - web sites) in the postwar period.

There were reminders of the cost of war for the United States.

Dozens of wounded Americans were carried off an Air Force plane on stretchers or limped off on crutches in San Diego.

And rescue teams were searching for two U.S. airmen from an F-15E Strike Eagle Fighter that went down over Iraq two days earlier.

By the Pentagon (news - web sites)'s count, 96 U.S. troops were dead, eight missing and seven captured since the war began. The British said 30 of their troops were dead. There are no reliable estimates for Iraqi casualties, although an Army spokesman said 7,300 prisoners had been taken.

A top U.S. State Department official, John R. Bolton, said in Rome that the Iraq war should be a lesson for other regimes pursuing weapons of mass destruction, although he insisted that the United States is seeking the peaceful elimination of those programs.

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This story was written by Special Correspondent David Espo in Washington, based on reporting from Ellen Knickmeyer, Chris Tomlinson, Alex Zavis and Hamza Hendawi in Baghdad and other AP reporters in Iraq and elsewhere.



To: tsigprofit who wrote (11264)4/9/2003 5:12:57 PM
From: Mike M  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 21614
 
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<<Bush's War Message: Strong and Clear
By R. W. APPLE Jr.

ASHINGTON, April 8 — At least for the moment, the political planets seem to be sliding into alignment for President Bush, and he looked and sounded as if he knew it today when he appeared in Belfast, Northern Ireland, for a news conference with Prime Minister Tony Blair of Britain.

Mr. Bush was self-assured, blunt-spoken and aggressive. Mastering well the English language, he betrayed not the slightest doubt about the decisions he has made on the war in Iraq so far or the ones he faces.

"I hear a lot of talk here about how, you know, we're going to impose this leader or that leader," the president declared, as he and Mr. Blair stood behind a pair of lecterns. "Forget it. From day one we have said the Iraqi people are capable of running their own country. That's what we believe. The position of the United States of America is, the Iraqis are plenty capable of running Iraq, and that's precisely what's going to happen."

The last time the two leaders met, at Camp David on March 27, Mr. Bush seemed almost diffident. He said little, allowing Mr. Blair to make the case for the war, and what he did say was completely eclipsed by the passion and the fluency of the prime minister's presentation.

A lot has changed in the 12 days since then. As Mr. Bush spoke this morning, British troops moved almost unhindered through Basra, and American troops had thrown a noose around Baghdad. Infantrymen from the Third Division held a long stretch of the west bank of the Tigris River in the heart of the capital and several of Saddam Hussein's palaces. The Iraqi Planning and Information Ministries were burning.

"Saddam Hussein clearly now knows I mean what I say," Mr. Bush said, confronting European skeptics with more than a touch of pugnacity. "People in Iraq will know we mean what we say when we talk about freedom."

Military victory begets political strength. Mr. Bush has carried the country with him, and most of the second-guessers among Washington's policy experts are keeping their voices down these days. Many Americans, including many influential in the artistic and academic worlds, continue to denounce the president's policies, and an antiwar demonstration in Oakland, Calif., on Monday turned nasty when the police opened fire with rubber bullets.

But the antiwar forces, who have had to contend from the start with the widespread belief that their position is unpatriotic and unsupportive of American troops engaged in deadly combat, must now bear the additional burden of arguing with success. American losses are relatively small: 96 dead to date, compared with 200 a day at the height of the Vietnam War.

That this should be so despite stubborn Iraqi resistance not only in Baghdad but also elsewhere must rank as one of the major surprises of a surprising war. Those who expected light casualties expected the enemy to collapse.

News of fierce fighting in Hilla, 50 miles south of Baghdad, and on the eastern and southern sides of the capital belies talk of collapse, though the ability of Iraqi commanders to control their forces is shrinking fast.

Political leaders in several countries, pragmatists all, have begun to reposition themselves for the next phase of the drama in Iraq. Chancellor Gerhard Schröder of Germany and Presidents Jacques Chirac of France and Vladimir V. Putin of Russia are to meet in St. Petersburg this week to search for a common way forward, which will doubtless include a bid for rapprochement with Washington. They, too, have been reading the battlefield dispatches.

Javier Solana, the European Union's secretary general, said the time had come "to turn the page."

But winning a war is one thing; restoring order is another. Iraq's ambassador to the United Nations warned today that his people would never accept governance by foreigners, even for an interim period.

Whether he is right or wrong will depend in considerable measure on how the temporary guarantors of civil peace, mostly American troops, do their work.

An incident today in which an American tank fired on a Baghdad hotel where foreign journalists are staying, killing two cameramen, demonstrated a salient point.