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To: waitwatchwander who wrote (2906)4/10/2003 11:30:10 AM
From: Eric L  Respond to of 9255
 
Nokia 6650 ...

Trevor,

<< What can you tell us about the availability of Nokia's 6650. Is it on the shelves at the local J-Phone outlet or still working it's way through the lab? >>

I can't really tell you any specifics (as it relates to J-Phone).

I simply have been watching the J-Phone site since J-Phone launched commercial 3GSM WCDMA service at the end of December for the removal of the "Coming Soon" label on both the Qualcomm MSM5200 powered single-mode Sanyo V-SA701 and the Nokia 6650 with dual-mode capability for use with 2.1 GHz W-CDMA and GSM networks in 900 and 1800 MHz.

When J-Phone officially launched commercial 3GSM WCDMA service only one of their 3 qualified handsets, the NEC V-N701 was available at retail to subscribers (as opposed to friendly users).

I was pleased to see that the "Coming Soon" label on the Sanyo V-SA701 was finally removed within the last few days. Qualcomm can finally claim to enable a commercially available single mode WCDMA handset, joining Fujitsu, Mitsubishi, Motorola, NEC, Panasonic, Sharp, and Toshiba, in that pantheon.

Commercially available WCDMA models from those manufacturers that I referred to above can be viewed at the Qualcomm sponsored 3GToday website:

3gtoday.com

This indicates to me that Qualcomm is finally over the hump with full compliance with the 3GPP 3GSM 'R99 June 2001 or later (probably 'R99' March 2002) commercial standards at least as it applies to single-mode 3GSM WCDMA operation and for operation on Ericsson and Nokia networks since those two manufacturers supplied kit to J-Phone. That is a real positive so far as I am concerned.

<< ... Nokia's 6650. Is it on the shelves at the local J-Phone outlet or still working it's way through the lab? >>

I suspect that the Nokia 6650 is well beyond what we (or at least I) commonly think of is being "in lab" although in reality the subscriber equipment team performing integration testing in a conformance lab coordinates all activity on the local full release and stocking of a handset including all field activity with friendly users (the FU).

In the case of a product like the Nokia 6650, however, which unlike the NEC V-N701 or the Sanyo V-SA701, is intended to meet the needs of the Vodafone international traveller, the scenario changes somewhat.

The subscriber equipment team in a conformance lab in Tokyo in this case has to coordinate with Vodafone headquarters and their conformance labs in Newbury, UK and elsewhere. The handset in question has to be qualified on a variety of network gear supplied by Ericsson, Nokia, Siemens, Alcatel, Nortel, Motorola and others. Single mode operation in 2.1 GHz with 2 network vendors is one thing. Multi-mode and multi-band operation with relatively seamless handover of voice and data services on a variety of 2G, 2,5G, and 3G networks from a multitude of vendors is a considerably different animal.

At CEBIT Nokia stated that the volume ramp for the 6650 which now has been qualified at up to 384 kbps (initially that was 128 kbps) will start to ship in volume Q2. They also stated that about 10,000 units had shipped and the majority of these are being used in field trials for IOT qualification. At CEBIT time Dr. J-T Bergqvist stated that GSM/WCDMA handovers hand been tested with 4 different network suppliers. He had more detail on this in a slide I can't locate at the moment.

J-Phone site is here. Its interesting to compare stats on the 3 models particularly battery life:

j-phone.com

That's all I know.

- Eric -