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To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (91682)	4/9/2003 11:50:01 PM
From: Sig	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

<<I said before the war started, that the Regime Change would go as planned, and the Nation Building wouldn't>> OK on #1 . but who knew what the plan was?. It developed as it went along, and probably went faster than the Pentagon thought that it would -beat the schedule to Baghdad, at least. The Nation building is more complicated, so maybe they are building one in Afghanistan, but other than that there is no valid precedent to go by. And Iraq has a much different culture than even it adjacent neighbor. It will be mostly whatever the Iraqis finally chose by their thinking, which is only a guess at best. Will they get "in gear" real fast ? I havent a clue. And again their is no plan as such , timewise or other, its just starting.to be developed. It is certainly not going to be a "perfect" plan, since there is a lot of politics involved.(g) So each person will value it as good, bad, or tolerable depending upon their view point. I will be contented if we reach each milestone unimpeded by great disent. The US will be setting some milestones or goals that are feasible with time allowed for resolving disputes. Which means a minimum interference from the UN participants Eamples of milestones: Get the food and water rolling into Iraq. ASAP Get the hospitals manned with adequate supplies. Get a government framework established ( being worked on) Get the schools rebuilt and refurnished with new schedules of classes and subjects Get a system of law and order and courts running and manned Rebuild the oil industry and exports- break loose the $24 bil held by the UN to be used for the above items There is no need to plan a schedule for the retreat of our Forces, or the disposition of war criminals which is more outside the business of nation building It will all work out like assembling a jigsaw puzzle, and some are guaranteed not to like the final picture Sig

To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (91682)	4/10/2003 2:40:37 AM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

>>the Nation Building wouldn't.<< If the Iraqis build a constitutional democracy or republic that accommodates the needs and rights of Sunni, Shi'a, Sufi, Kurd, Assyrian, Chaldean, and secular Iraqi, etc., it will be very interesting indeed. I've been reading Turkish news sources daily for months, and was very surprised to learn that Turkey has a Minister of Religion! This is part of their government. Which has been allegedly secular since Kemal Attaturk. What is meant by secular is clearly different than what is mean by secular in the US. Maybe not so different from Germany, which has laws about paying tithes to churches. I don't know enough about Turkish government or German law to really say.