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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (11752)4/10/2003 9:04:43 AM
From: Machaon  Respond to of 21614
 
Iraqi opposition: ties with Israel; but no place for Palestinians in new Iraq

jpost.com

There will be strong ties with Israel but no place for Palestinians in the new Iraq, a leading member of the Iraqi National Congress (INC) told me late Wednesday night.

The Washington-backed organization, a secular, democratic umbrella for Iraq's Shi'ite, Sunni and Kurdish communities, is committed to a unitary state, with a large measure of autonomy for what they envisage will be three federal components.

Until recently, the vigorously pro-Western movement was based in London. Today, most of its leaders have relocated to various parts of Iraq, planning to converge on Baghdad within the coming days and preparing, with American support, to announce the formation of a provisional government.

One of the most elegant and eloquent princes of the INC is Nabeel Musawi, right hand of INC leader Ahmad Chalabi and scion of a prominent Shi'ite family in Baghdad.

Musawi fled into exile aged 18 when his father was arrested and later executed. Now in his early 40s, he is destined for a key role in a future Iraqi administration.

Speaking from Dokan, in liberated northern Iraq, Musawi takes pleasure in describing the unbridled celebrations - the spontaneous, uninhibited joy on the streets of Iraq's towns and cities - as ordinary Iraqis celebrated the toppling of Saddam's statue in Baghdad's Paradise Square.

"All our cities are euphoric," he tells me, the allied bombing of nearby Kirkuk clearly audible in the background over our satellite phone link.

Musawi reminds me that hundreds of thousands of Palestinians were expelled from the Gulf states after the 1991 war in retribution for their complicity with Saddam, particularly in Kuwait, where they collaborated with his enforcers in identifying key personnel after the Iraqi invasion. All were arrested, Many were never seen again.

Today, the large Palestinian community is regarded by INC leaders as a loathsome fifth column, among the most faithful and loyal followers of Saddam Hussein.

Will the Palestinians be welcome to remain in a new, post-Saddam Iraq? "Absolutely not," Musawi snaps. Nor, for that matter, will Arabs who had opposed the US-led war to deliver freedom to the Iraqi people.

And the UN? "They did not play a very honorable role when it came to dealing with Saddam," he says. "We believe the UN needs to put its own house in order before it can play a credible role here."

Musawi is equally unequivocal when talking enthusiastically of his hopes for the closest possible ties with Israel.

We had spoken before of the INC vision of an "arc of peace" that would run from Turkey, through Iraq and Jordan to Israel, creating a new fulcrum in the Middle East. Does that concept still stand? "You know we have always wanted that," he says.

When Musawi flew out of London for his personal date with destiny, he left behind a thriving IT business. Now translated into his old-new homeland, he commands some 1,200 of the 3,000 US-armed and trained INC fighters who are now deployed in Iraq.

After the toppling of that statue in Baghdad on Wednesday, Musawi decided to test the water by taking a walk through town without his ubiquitous security detail. To his surprise, he was mobbed by the local people, anxious to kiss his hand.

He does not believe that Saddam is dead or that he has left the country, although he strongly suspects that Syria has become a "safe haven" for Saddam's considerable assets, as well as his wife and daughters. His eldest son, Uday, might also be there.

The tyrant-turned-fugitive is on the run, and Musawi suspects that Saddam's traditional followers in his supposed power-base of Tikrit, aware of America's ferocious response if he seeks refuge there, will not be as welcoming as Saddam might have expected: "I have a feeling that the tribal elders will disown him."

Musawi knows more than most about the cruel nature of Saddam's regime. In addition to frequent visits to Washington to consult and coordinate with Pentagon officials, he has been responsible for debriefing the top military brass who defected from Iraq as it became obvious that Saddam's regime was on the slide. In the past two years, the trickle became a torrent.

The debriefings, exhaustive and exhausting affairs which took up to a week each, were held wherever the generals washed up. . . in Turkey, in Lebanon, in Thailand. No money ever changed hands, but Musawi held out the promise that, through his specialist contacts, he would smuggle their families out of Iraq (as he had smuggled out his own mother, brother and sister).

One debriefing earlier this year took place, without official authorization, in Amman. When the Jordanian authorities discovered Musawi's business, he was forced to make a hasty exit, relieved to cross the border to safety in Israel. It was not his first visit.

Just before we end our conversation, I remind Musawi that he is expected, as usual, at our Passover seder next week. For a moment, there is silence. "Look, I don't think I'm going to be able to make it," he says with a chuckle. Then he quickly adds: "Next year in Baghdad. Inshallah."

It is an offer I might not be able to refuse.



To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (11752)4/10/2003 9:08:42 AM
From: Machaon  Respond to of 21614
 
Muslim volunteers from outside Iraq among last fighters

jpost.com

"Volunteer fighters from Syria and other Arab lands turned up in surprising places as U.S. troops rolled into Baghdad and some were still battling for Iraq's cause after President Saddam Hussein's regime had all but dissolved."

"American soldiers found one Syrian in a refrigerator at a presidential residence near the international airport Monday. He said he and six comrades now dead had been dropped in and told to fight to the death for the Iraqi president.

He said he had chosen concealment over martyrdom."



To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (11752)4/10/2003 9:19:38 AM
From: Machaon  Respond to of 21614
 
Palestinian Denial of Religious Freedom

gamla.org.il

From the article: ===> "Destroyed Christian Communities and Sites in Lebanon -

During the seven-year Lebanese civil war (1975-1982) Christian communities in Lebanon were targets for the reign of terror of the Palestine Liberation Organization, the Palestinian Authority's predecessor. Christian villagers were massacred, churches destroyed, and cemeteries desecrated. The town of Damour, 10 miles south of Beirut, was particularly hard hit. Hundreds of Damour residents were reportedly massacred. (5)" <===

When will the brutal Palestinian leaders be held accountable for their crimes against humanity?



To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (11752)4/10/2003 3:10:36 PM
From: Thomas M.  Respond to of 21614
 
LOL!



To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (11752)7/22/2003 1:21:40 PM
From: Neeka  Respond to of 21614
 
The picture of the Arch was sooooo appropriate gustave....

Fits right in with this article.

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Iraqi and French secret services cooperation to thwart a conference on Saddam's abuses:

French Iraq 'plot' inquiry urged

Claims that the French security services worked with Iraq to disrupt a conference on the widespread use of torture and murder by Saddam Hussein's regime should be investigated by France's parliament, a Labour MP said.

Ann Clwyd says that documents uncovered in Iraq's foreign ministry by a British journalist indicate a co-ordinated effort to undermine a Paris meeting of Indict, the organisation she founded to press for legal action against members of Saddam's regime.

Foreign Secretary Jack Straw has already pledged to investigate the alleged incident and make a written statement to MPs, she told BBC Radio 4's Today programme.
Ms Clwyd - an advocate of attacking Iraq to remove its regime - said she had chaired the conference in 2000 which was aimed at raising the profile of Indict in France.

Death threats
"If these documents that have been found in the foreign ministry in Baghdad are accurate it shows that the French secret service and the Iraqi secret service worked together to disrupt an Indict conference that we held in Paris three years ago.

"It was certainly disrupted and there are memos in the files ... that show [former Iraqi information minister Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf] is the same man who wrote the memo saying that he had been 'successful in disrupting the enemy conference'.

"This is a memo sent to Saddam Hussein and there are other documents showing that the Iraqi secret service and the French secret service worked together to do exactly that.
"We got a telephone at our office in London ... threatening to kill everyone at the conference.

"At the same time the British police received a warning that everybody at the Paris conference would be dead by the end of the day."

Ms Clwyd went on to say that during the conference - attended by the wife of the former French president Francois Mitterrand - an Iraqi man had been found secretly filming people giving evidence of the torture they had suffered at the hands of the Saddam regime.

"The French police let this particular man go along with the video tape after confirming he did have diplomatic immunity."

The man had been attached to the Moroccan embassy in Paris and complaints were subsequently issued to their ambassador and the French authorities, Ms Clwyd said.
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