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To: Alastair McIntosh who wrote (91757)4/10/2003 9:55:28 AM
From: michael97123  Respond to of 281500
 
Hi Al,
Certainly our troops may have screwed up and the UN concern is justified but i still wonder whether the UN shared this info with the US prior to the war in which case the apparent screw up could have been prevented. Just a thought. Mike



To: Alastair McIntosh who wrote (91757)4/10/2003 10:37:30 AM
From: Ilaine  Respond to of 281500
 
One of the things we are worried about here in the US is radioactive material being used by terrorists to make "dirty bombs." Regardless of whether the UN knew about the material, I am not impressed by the way it was stored.



To: Alastair McIntosh who wrote (91757)4/10/2003 2:08:15 PM
From: KLP  Respond to of 281500
 
Re the radioactive material find....read the Carl Prine, Pittsburg News-Tribune, embedded with the Marines, article, then look at the article you posted.... Very interesting differences!!!!!

IF the UN knew about this...why wouldn't they tell the US...hummmmmmm? And WHY would the UN have let this mess continue to be there, contaminating everything around it...if they knew it???

Marines find underground nuke complex
Captain guarding facility: 'How did the world miss all of this?'
April 9, 2003
Message 18821519

Note: This article was posted by Carl Prine of the Pittsburg Tribune-Reviews, NOT worldnetdaily. The wnd just picked up the article. Carl is embedded with the 1st Marines.

>>>>>>>>>snip.......On days when the inspectors were scheduled to visit, only the fuel fabrication rooms were open to them," he said in the report, written with Khidhir Hamza, an Iraqi nuclear engineer who defected in 1994. "Usually, employees were told to take to their rooms so that the inspectors did not see an unusually large number of people."

Chief Warrant Officer Darrin Flick, the battalion's nuclear, biological and chemical warfare specialist, said radiation levels were particularly high at a place near the complex where local residents say the "missile water" is stored in mammoth caverns.

"It's amazing," Flick said. "I went to the off-site storage buildings, and the rad detector went off the charts. Then I opened the steel door, and there were all these drums, many, many drums, of highly radioactive material."

Iraq began to develop its nuclear program at Al-Tuwaitha in the 1970s, according to the Institute for Science and International Security. Israel destroyed a French-built reactor there in 1981 and a reactor built by the Russians was destroyed during the 1991 Gulf War.

Hamza testified before Congress last August that if left unchecked, Iraq could have had nuclear weapons by 2005.

Noting that the ground in the area is muddy and composed of clay, Hamza was surprised to learn of the Marines' discovery, the Tribune-Review said. He wondered if the Iraqis went to the colossal expense of pumping enough water to build the subterranean complex because no reasonable inspector would think anything might be built underground there.

"Nobody would expect it," Hamza said. "Nobody would think twice about going back there." <<<<<<<<<snip



To: Alastair McIntosh who wrote (91757)4/11/2003 1:47:49 AM
From: D. Long  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Apparently the U.N. knew about the radioactive material.

But they apparently didn't know about the sublevels. Even Hamza, who was Saddam's bombmaker before he defected, knew. Which seems to indicate it is recent (last 4 years or so) - uninspected - construction.

Derek