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To: jackhach who wrote (9040)	4/10/2003 10:36:01 AM
From: jackhach	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 13797

Watch how "human" we will prove to be in 3 or 4 months from now -- when the far more difficult task of rebuilding becomes ever more evident. Iraq will soon become a back page story -- and essentially someone else's problem to deal with (as far as the Administration is concerned.) They will start blaming Syria, Iran, the Turks for sabotaging their efforts at Democracy and then just abandon the cause -- mark my words.

To: jackhach who wrote (9040)	4/10/2003 10:55:19 AM
From: Greg h2o	Respond to of 13797

<<...gee I wonder how quick the US will abandon Iraq -- a month or two. Lets hope Bush learned from his mishandling of the Afghan mess. >> really? leave it to you to not say ONE positive statement about what has already been accomplished, but to move right on to sniping. that's so much in character for you. i would think you'd be hoping we'd leave Iraq pretty quickly. i sure hope so. there is no comparison to the Afghan mess, which, if you remember correctly, was a campaign to remove a bunch of terrorists in a territory with absolutely no economy and no educational system. the atrocities were just as bad, but the remedy is different. but let's assume they'll do better than handing it over to the UN: WSJ-REVIEW & OUTLOOK The U.N.'s Haitian Example Bill Clinton told an audience in Puerto Rico Saturday that "we ought to let the United Nations decide the future" of Iraq. The war, said the former President, "is a good thing if it is done right." Those remarks caught our attention, and not merely because they meddle in President Bush's current negotiations with Britain and other nations. Mr. Clinton also happens to be on a Caribbean tour that included a stop in Haiti yesterday. And if ever there was a primer on how not to rebuild a liberated nation, Bill Clinton and the U.N wrote it in Haiti. Recall that, under a U.N. resolution, U.S. troops restored "democracy" to Haiti during the Clinton years by removing military coup-leader Raoul Cedras. Jean Bertrand Aristide, who had been democratically elected, was returned to power. After six months of U.S. military presence, Mr. Clinton declared the effort a "remarkable success" and turned the reconstruction over to U.N. peace-keepers. It's been downhill ever since. The source of the problem is clearly Mr. Aristide himself, who likes absolute power as much as the country's legendary Duvalier dictators. Washington knew what Mr. Aristide is made of, but the Haitian strongman used a combination of Haitian public funds, leftist rhetoric and the race card to win support from Mr. Clinton. The U.N. stood by and watched it all happen, notwithstanding its good intentions. When the Senate elections were stolen in May 2000 by Mr. Aristide's Lavalas Party, even the optimists began throwing in the towel. In January 2001 the U.N. closed its Haiti mission and full-blown anarchy took over. Violence against Mr. Aristide's political opponents is now commonplace, judges and journalists are harassed and many have had to flee the country. We doubt the U.S. and its allies could do any worse in Iraq. Updated April 9, 2003

To: jackhach who wrote (9040)	4/10/2003 11:10:20 AM
From: Greg h2o	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 13797

<<Now that we've "liberated" Iraq -- will we now start the discussion of 23+ months (post-WWII record) of lost jobs; apparently his goal is 48 months.>> with the war nearing an end, maybe they'll complete the tax cuts and stimulus package and move forward. the hangover from the late 90's was one of the worst ever. no doubt about it. and if you think the current economical situation is "bush's fault", you clearly are ommitting a tremendous amount of evidence that points to a steep downturn from the 90's excesses, heightened by a multi-trillion dollar terrorist attack and a war. i guess you just forgot about them and wanted to use your favorite scapegoat. i think people now realize how disingenuous that argument really is.