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Politics : Stop the War! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Machaon who wrote (11790)	4/11/2003 3:43:53 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 21614

Re: Are you saying that ALL Jews should be perfect? I think that you are setting too high a standard for one of the smallest minorities on earth. That's utterly wrong, Bob... Precisely because I make no exception for the Jews I'm able to expose their dark features beside their bright ones (). Actually, I'm much of the same opinion as a prominent French Jew, Guy Sorman. Mr Sorman is a patented "French intellectual" whose politics are (right-wing) libertarian and, although he's Jewish and most of his family is in Israel, he's not Zionist. Here's an excerpt of of he said a few months ago on the French TV: Au détour d'une intervention sur l'islam, Guy Sorman avança que "L'Etat d'Israël est un produit de l'histoire idéologique du XIXe siècle (...). C'est un accident historique, et je ne vois pas comment il va pouvoir tenir beaucoup plus longtemps que n'avaient tenu le royaume de Jérusalem ou le royaume de Salomon" [1]. "De tels propos, aux yeux de plusieurs invités de Giesbert, tels Pierre Bénichou et Alain Minc, qui n'ont pas mâché leurs mots, sont tout simplement scandaleux", rapporte Le Monde* dans un modèle de phrase faussement neutre dont il a le secret. acrimed.samizdat.net Translation: ...Guy Sorman said that "The state of Israel is the product of a XIXth-century ideology (...). It's a historical accident and I don't see how it will be able to hold on any longer than the Kingdoms of Jerusalem and Solomon before." I recall Sorman also said that he found Israel to be so "terribly banal"... He said that what should have been a Utopian state ended up as just another nation-state in the grip of a jingoistic ruling class... (*) Message 18731305 Re: Jews are at the center of every creative, scientific, cultural, political, ideological movement and endeavor. Jews are over-represented as Nobel Prize recipients, winning at least 20% (that's 1/5) of all awards given to date. Jews founded Hollywood, and are today the dominant cultural influence in television, radio, cinema, journalism and theater in America and elsewhere. Jews are over-represented in all forms of medicine, in all the professions, in every sport, in modeling and fashion, in law-enforcement and the military, in political sex scandals, in new-age religion... In almost everything that represents the free world and all of its trappings, Jews are there." As a matter of facts, the Jews were allowed to blossom culturally, intellectually and politically from the XIXth century onwards, enjoying their cultural apex in the XXth century... Somehow, the Jews enjoyed their Warholian century of fame between 1900 and 2000. Gus