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To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (389592)	4/10/2003 5:24:37 PM
From: username	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Well, Lizzie, you anticipated incorrectly. I understand your contention. It's a matter for debate whether or not the CIA or other intelligence sources had concrete evidence of WMDs in Iraq way before this current military operation. I know they did, but I can't prove it to you, so we'll just have to leave it there, for now. Remember your post regarding "no WMDs". They will be found, I guarantee you. Not only that, they will be disposed of, and there will be zero chance of them reappearing in Iraq. My contention could be that the war was actually started when Iraq invaded Kuwait. You are, I am sure, familiar with the agreement that the Iraqi regime signed after the coalition pushed him out of Kuwait, right? You are familiar with the legal process the United States engaged in for almost two years prior to the resumption of hostilities, correct? Would you accept that as my argument for Iraq starting this war?

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (389592)	4/10/2003 5:27:30 PM
From: David Howe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

<< No WMDs in Iraq >> Stay tuned. Your post has been bookmarked. Dave

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (389592)	4/10/2003 5:44:30 PM
From: Sully-	Respond to of 769670

Al-Qaeda-linked group wiped out News24, South Africa - 23 hours ago Halabja - US forces have wiped out an alleged al-Qaeda-linked group in northern Iraq with help from their Kurdish allies..... news24.com 'Terror manual' found at northern Iraqi camp April 09 2003 at 10:51AM Hamburg - A handbook found at the camp of a terror group in northern Iraq linked to al-Qaeda detailed wide-ranging experiments in biological and chemical weapons, Germany's Stern news magazine reports in its upcoming Thursday edition. iol.co.za

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (389592)	4/10/2003 5:45:38 PM
From: Sully-	Respond to of 769670

Marines Attack Suspected Iraq Terror Camp Marines Raid Suspected Terror Camp Just South of Baghdad in Nighttime Raid, Find Few Iraqis The Associated Press abcnews.go.com

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (389592)	4/10/2003 5:46:38 PM
From: Sully-	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

AL QAEDA TERROR CAMP 'LINK TO SADDAM' Gulf Daily News, Bahrain - Apr 6, 2003 ... yesterday it had captured or killed fighters from Sudan, Egypt and other countries in Iraq, and some of those captured had led it to a terrorist training camp.... gulf-daily-news.com

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (389592)	4/10/2003 7:13:24 PM
From: Neeka	Respond to of 769670

You prove you are as dumb as a stone. I only observe. M

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (389592)	4/10/2003 7:17:02 PM
From: briskit	Respond to of 769670

reference #4 & article nationalreview.com April 10, 2003, 5:00 a.m. Freedom’s Bell & Iraq’s Smoking Guns Naysayers have nowhere to run and nowhere to hide. By Mansoor Ijaz The naysayers, including some of America's most decorated military commanders and political leaders, should understand once and for all why this war had to be fought, and how ridding the world of the most dangerous threat mankind has possibly ever faced was necessary to insure he couldn't distribute Iraq's weapons of mass terror through networks of Islamist lunatics willing to martyr themselves. The evidence of Saddam's maniacal plans becomes clearer by the hour, but a few findings merit discussion now because the naysayers continue to bluster about the rationale behind America's decision to proceed. 1. Weapons-grade plutonium. At the Al Tuwaitha nuclear complex, which Mohammed El Baradei's International Atomic Energy Agency inspectors declared free of nuclear materials late last year, an embedded journalist for the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reported on Thursday that Marine battalions had detected weapons-grade plutonium. Al Tuwaitha was an Iraqi government-controlled facility run by Saddam's Atomic Energy Commission. A maze of belowground hallways leading to labs and storage facilities underscored the lengths to which Saddam's scientists had gone in order to hide their clandestine activities. And not one or two buildings, but fourteen — count them, 14 — buildings had abnormally high radiation levels, according to the US 1st Marine Division's nuclear and intelligence experts unearthing the secrets. If it is confirmed that weapons-grade plutonium exists at Tuwaitha, those who gave Saddam either the reactor technology and chemicals to reprocess spent uranium or transferred weapons-grade plutonium directly to Iraq will have a lot to answer for. 2. Biological weapons. Fox News' embedded reporter, Rick Leventhal, downloaded incredible video of what may be the first of Saddam's bioweapons labs on wheels. He reported that in a U-Haul-sized truck disguised as a radar facility for mobile surface-to-air missiles, a false panel revealed electronic pulleys, winches, storage bins, and refrigerators which could easily be used to store biological-weapons stashes (refrigeration being the key identifier because you certainly don't need refrigerators to freeze the rocket launcher). Tests will determine definitively whether there are any biological residues or not. But when a truck is found at a construction site hidden amid other trucks and construction equipment, and then tries to high tail it out of camp before it gets found out and then shot out by alert U.S. Marines, it is a sure sign that someone powerful wanted to hide this truck, and maybe its sisters, at all cost. 3. Chemical warheads. The 1st Marine Division with the 101st Airborne reports the seizure of 20 medium-range rockets armed with sarin and mustard gas that were ready to fire — not stored away, not unassembled, but ready to fire. And the amounts of chemicals found in the warheads of the BM-21 missiles left no doubt about their intended use — to kill masses of Coalition troops. These were not trace amounts. 4. Al Qaeda links. In the north, Coalition troops found paperwork early in the campaign after bombing the Sargat camp that indisputably tied the terrorists of Ansar al-Islam, a terrorist outfit funded in part by Saddam's Mukhabarat intelligence directorate and in part by Iran's SAVAK intelligence services, to al Qaeda. Sargat was operated by Abu Musab al Zarqawi, a known close associate of Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan, and was residence to over 700 terrorists, about a fourth of whom trained in bin Laden's Afghani terror camps. Zarqawi and his henchmen are now believed to be hiding in Ansar camps just on the Iranian side of the border.