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To: Gary Ng who wrote (92379)4/11/2003 2:17:16 PM
From: Sun Tzu  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Through out history there have been many nations who have for one reason or another relied on a neighbor or have been "owned" by their neighbor. But that does not make them part of the other nation. Nor does it make it right and an internal matter to do whatever you want to them. Tibetans are no less related to Chinese than Irish are to the British. The Kurds have always been part of the greater kingdoms of their neighboring states, but that does not mean their Arabization was justified. For the longest time, Armenia was the protectorate of Iran; they respected Iran's wishes and in return were protected against attacks from Turkey and Russia. That did not mean that they were owned by Iran. Edward I of England considered "breeding out" the Scottish as a way of controlling them (and Scotland still operates as part of UK, but don't think that they've been happy about it...yes I know, during the 20th century finally some understandings have been reached). All in all, the historical ties between Tibet and China are hardly unique and in general less material than aforementioned examples. They do not make Tibet a property of China.

As to being peace loving, if my read of Chinese history is correct, China has always had more in-fighting than trying to take over the world. But it has never shied from grabbing what it could from its neighbors whenever it could either...so yes more peace loving than Romans and the like, but not peace loving enough like Greeks or the Tibetans.

ST



To: Gary Ng who wrote (92379)4/12/2003 2:22:01 AM
From: D. Long  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Tibet was not considered a 'seperate' country even since the early Qing but part of it(China).

Of course the Emperor thought he ruled the world, so that's a bit meaningless, isn't it?

Derek