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Politics : Michael Moore Is a Big Fat Idiot -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Poet who wrote (203)	4/11/2003 4:03:42 PM
From: Cage Rattler	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1409

Are you saying that any and all types of "criticism" are equivalent and therefore justified? When, if ever, should "the issue being criticized" have bearing on the legitimacy of criticism? Yes, defining ones terms is always a slippery slope; but, unless terms are mutually defined and understood, the chatter of conversation will continue with depreciated communication.

To: Poet who wrote (203)	4/11/2003 6:39:17 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Respond to of 1409

We started down that slope a long time ago: 216.239.57.100

To: Poet who wrote (203)	4/13/2003 3:56:16 PM
From: American Spirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1409

Anyone wants to complain about GW is a damn traitor. Especially during a war. And since we got 9 more wars to fight in the next 6 years, that about says it all right there. Syria, Iran, North Korea, France, Russia, Canada, Cuba, Germany, Saudi Arabia. All wimps and socialists. Once we free them, we'll have things in check so GW can hand off to Tom Delay, or whoever the next president should be. Then he can take care of China.

To: Poet who wrote (203)	4/17/2003 11:03:39 AM
From: Bill	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1409

When Anti-War Speech Turns Seditious By Michelle Malkin April 9 , 2003 THEY'VE trashed 9-11 memorials. Blocked streets. Burned flags. Shut down bridges. Marched on Broadway. And trampled across the National Mall. They've thrown stones at a uniformed female member of the Vermont National Guard, and hurled pie at a Bay Area television reporter deemed too pro-war. They've carried signs that read "We support our troops when they shoot their own officers" and "Don't impeach Bush ... execute him." They've publicly wished for "a million Mogadishus" and privately hoped for 100 new bin Ladens. They've issued manifestos calling for sabotage of military establishments in the name of peace. They've organized "die-ins" in the name of justice. And they've conducted "vomit-fests" to uphold their warped view of the American way. The anti-war mobsters have gotten away with all this and more. But on Monday, one city finally drew the line. In Oakland, Calif., local police arrested dozens of anti-war activists who flaunted their free-speech rights in a treacherous attempt to shut down a port involved in shipping military supplies to soldiers during wartime. Elsewhere in the Bay Area, several others were cited for crossing a police line outside the Concord Naval Weapons Station; seven more face felony charges for stopping traffic nearby on Interstate 280. Oakland officials say that the self-proclaimed pacifists, who still fancy themselves the righteous heirs of Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr., hurled concrete, wood and iron bolts at cops. In self-defense, the outnumbered police fired appropriately named "dummy" bullets, sting balls and bean bags at the unruly crowds. Sporting grapefruit-sized welts and bruises – their very own red badges of incorrigibility! – the Oakland rabble-rousers wheedled that the cops were too "aggressive." "I've never seen this level of violence in response to a community picket," complained David Solnit, a "veteran of two decades of civil disobedience" who helped coordinate Monday's blockade through an outfit called Direct Action to Stop the War. But this was not your organic garden-variety "community picket." The anti-war obstructionists did not set out simply to exercise their own free speech. They set out deliberately and specifically to prevent private businesses from fulfilling their federal contracts with the Department of Defense and U.S. Agency for International Development related to the war and post-war reconstruction in Iraq. Cyprus Gonzalez, 19, of Oakland, who was struck during the port melee, made his and his anti-war collaborators' intentions clear: "It's direct. Here, we're actually trying to shut the place down for a day, to take a strike straight at the actual machine of the war." The anti-war mob's primary target at the Port of Oakland was American President Lines, a longtime carrier of military cargo. According to the firm, all but two of the company's ships went into military service during World War I. In World War II, the company controlled hundreds of Liberty and Victory ships that carried troops and ammunition through enemy waters. APL provided converted commercial ships for the first Gulf War. And for Operation Iraqi Freedom, the carrier has made nine of its vessels available to the DoD in order to move ammunition and sustainment cargo to support U.S. military forces. The Oakland punks weren't simply standing on the sidewalks outside APL chanting their mindless anti-war slogans. They were blocking its trucks, employees, entryways and streets in order to stop the shipment of things like bullets, rations, lubricants, medical supplies, repair parts and chemical-defense equipment to our troops. These bolt-throwing peaceniks also targeted Stevedoring Services of America, which recently won a contract for assessment and a year's operation of the Port of Umm Qasr in Iraq. The firm will also handle 3 million tons of humanitarian aid. So in addition to trying to block ammo and gas masks for our soldiers, the anti-war extremists also took a bold stand against sending food and medicine to Iraqi civilians. Nice going, do-gooders. Make no mistake: This continued campaign of "direct action" against private businesses and military establishments is not anti-war speech. It's anti-soldier, anti-cop, anti-American sedition. The Oakland police deserve medals of honor for appreciating the difference. anncoulter.org