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Politics : Stop the War! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: zonder who wrote (12304)	4/11/2003 2:37:04 PM
From: Jorj X Mckie	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 21614

Most of the reasons given for the war are basically propaganda. The idea that the motivating factor is iraqi liberation is absurd, as many have pointed out. However, it is a nice by-product. However, there is a pretty efficient way David can attack Goliath - terrorism It is pretty clear that the war on terrorism is in full swing. But a strategy that doesn't address the real problem isn't going to be successful. And contrary to the beliefs of many, the US and Israel are not what causes the creation of terrorists. It is the oppressive governments who suck the will to live out of their people and then blame outsiders for their country's woes. If Iraq can become a successful self-governing secular state, it will be a serious threat to the terrorist breeding nations. Saudis, Kuwaitis, Palestinians, Syrians etc... who just want to live and provide for their families will start to have hope that their quality of life can improve too. This is what revolutions are made of. I believe that those who complain that the U.S. isn't addressing the terrorist problem with action in Iraq aren't looking at the big picture and following this to the logical conclusion.....assuming it goes to plan. It does mean that Iraq will need to be nurtured and that they truly are willing to make the change. If the US uses force against the population going forward, the plan will fall apart. The Saudis who are in power should be counting the days before they are ousted.

To: zonder who wrote (12304)	4/11/2003 2:38:34 PM
From: Edscharp	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 21614

zonder, "Countries that feel they may be next on US list of "regime change" will soon go nuclear." You overstate your case. Saddam Hussein made the 'regime change' list because of his ruthless ambitions for the middleast. He declared war on the Iranians. He declared war on the Kuwaitis. He had no compunctions about using chemical weapons on the Kurds and Iranians. He developed a nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs which he then attempted to hide from the U.N. and for the past dozen years violated or ignored one UN sanction after another. As much as I distrust Iran and Syria they haven't run-up a track record anything like Hussein's. The only other country in the world that comes close to Hussein's track record is North Korea. Kim Il Sung brutalizes his own people and is developing (or may already have) nuclear weapons. While he has yet to make war with his neighbors he certainly seems to enjoy making threats to do so. It's my hope that China will keep Kim Il Sung in tow. It's my fear that they won't. If Kim Il Sung keeps pushing the envelope U.S. troops may find themselves at work again. Too soon to tell at this juncture, but it is certainly a situation that needs watching. Maybe if the do-gooders, like the kind who started this board, would start protesting Kim Il Sung's despotic leadership now they will not need to protest US foreign policy later.