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To: Doc Bones who wrote (92732)	4/12/2003 6:59:27 AM
From: Doc Bones	Respond to of 281500

HISTORICAL ROLES WILL LEAD WAR PLAYERS TO REPEAT MISTAKES Georgie Anne Geyer Apr. 11, 2003 WASHINGTON -- No one is going to deny the heroism of American and coalition forces in Iraq. No one is going to negate the fact that the vast majority of Iraqis are erupting in suddenly released hatred for their torturers. No one is going to argue the fact that fewer have died so far than we might have thought -- and thank God for that! Criticism of America's war with Iraq was never about any of those things. It was about the administration's idea that the shock of "Iraq" would awe not only the Iraqis, but also a lot of others into an entirely new era; it questioned the idea that democratization could suddenly emerge, full-blown, in one of the most bitter and vengeful places on Earth. uexpress.com

To: Doc Bones who wrote (92732)	4/12/2003 7:45:00 AM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Retired Gen. Brent Scowcroft Yeah, and he will stay "Retired." Tell him not to wait by his phone for an administration call. Boy, was he wrong! As for Ahmad Chalabi, this battle is "State vs DOD." Who knows who will win. Chalabi could be killed in the next few weeks. He could be rejected by the Iraqis. Or he could end up running the place. Dammit, we need to get the lights, water and sewer running, with some local police, and a court system. We don't need a bunch of Washington or UN Bureaucrats trying to take over Iraq. As for Congress, as I have posted before, they remind me of the Roman Senate when Scipio Africanus was defeating Hannibal for them. A bunch of meddling ingrates.

To: Doc Bones who wrote (92732)	4/12/2003 10:09:49 AM
From: paul_philp	Respond to of 281500

I assume the neocons backing of the INC is related to their stated policy of recognizing Israel, something a "true" Iraqi democracy, whatever that is, would be unlikely to do. Doc OK, were crossing the line into the telling of lies. I have seen a few of the evil neocons interviewed about the INC. The specifically don't support the INC as the primary source of an interim government because the INC is, be definition, an outsider in Iraq. The neocons support using the INC people as part of the bootstrapping process, the INC has been helping for months with some of the preperations and planning for rebuilding civil services and infrastructure. The whole INC argument is a childish strawman used by people looking or the next stick to beat the neocon pinata. Now, just because they want to change the name of Iraq to Wolfistan with the capital of Bushdad, people think they are mean. I now assume the EVERY critic of the Neocons are lying, it has happened so often now. Paul