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To: philv who wrote (17973)4/13/2003 8:51:45 AM
From: sea_urchin  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 81296
 
Phil > I'm afraid we will pay a considerable price for our stance re: war.

Yes, there's no doubt about that and the same applies to all the nations, including South Africa, which did not go along with the US in the war. In fact, I have been thinking a great deal about it and have concluded that the Shakespeare expression, "This above all: to thine own self be true, and it must follow, as the night of the day, thou canst not then be false to any man", must apply. In fact, as Harry Browne said in "How I found freedom in an unfree world", one must pay the price as soon as one can because that way it's always easiest and, in fact, less than it will eventually be.

Here's the opinion of an African nationalist in this morning's local rag. Even though I live in SA, I'm not particularly interested in the Non-aligned nations and African unity etc but this is how they apparently see it which, I have to say, is not very different from the way I do.

suntimes.co.za

>>>It was not an easy matter for the African contingency in the Security Council to go against the will of the world's superpower. The risks in rousing the wrath of the US are immense.

Militarily, the US will win the war in Iraq. But its prestige as a superpower is much diminished around the world. Europe has served notice that the shaping of the Clash of Culture world order will not be left to the exclusive will of the US.

The Third World has proclaimed that it is still entitled to its own opinions and its views will not always concur with those of the superpower.

Finally Africa, like Turkey, has stood tall and said in unison that it is not for sale, it has its own agenda. <<<

>I have for a long time wondered about the danger of terrorism in the U.S. Was that a convenient excuse to garner fear and whip up public opinion to support the war?

Yes, that's what I believe and have said so on this forum many times before. And, in fact, it is for this very reason that I am so interested in 911. And, I'm also quite sure it is for this reason that the US administration does its very best to cover up the truth behind 911. If you are interested in 911, I posted an excellent link a few days ago.
Message 18804203

I haven't read all the book because it is heavy going but I have read some of it and I can say it is very well researched and authoritative. It's not the usual type of "conspiracy" story. On the basis of actual evidence available, the conclusions reached leave the reader with no doubt that something was very seriously amiss with the US establishment on that day --- and that's putting it nicely.

>I think the Kurds will again be sacrificed for a greater cause. They apparently enjoyed a semi-autonomous status, and will probably continue like that with US security guarantees.

I can't argue with your assessment. Anyway, whatever happens is still a long way down the line.