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To: TobagoJack who wrote (31408)4/12/2003 11:54:24 PM
From: elmatador  Respond to of 74559
 
The War Goes Well. So Where's the Dividend?
By STEVE LOHR

<<Aparently, there is people that doesn't know that the war was to take, from the publci eyes, the deep underlying structural problems of the US economy.>>

nytimes.com

HE images of military triumph from Baghdad last week, as Saddam Hussein's statue and his regime toppled, brought a measured sigh of relief from the business world. Economists' worst fears about the impact of the Iraqi war had not materialized. American casualties were limited. There were no big oil-field fires, and no terrorist reprisals yet on American soil. So far, so good, it seems.

AYet business executives and economists said in interviews last week that while the progress of troops in Iraq was unquestionably good news for the economy, as one source of uncertainty recedes, it remains to be seen whether the battlefield success will prove to have been a turning point. Still unclear is whether consumer confidence and business investment will not only revive from their war-jitter depths but also begin a more sustained recovery.

The answer, the executives add, will depend partly on the longer-term geopolitical ripples that extend from the conflict in the Middle East. Can the United States military greatly reduce its involvement in Iraq soon, or will the troops be mired there in a lengthy police action? Will ousting Mr. Hussein be a step toward greater stability in the region or bring an anti-American backlash and fresh waves of terrorism?

Echoing the views of several executives, James M. Zimmerman, chairman of Federated Department Stores, said that it was "way too early to tell how the end of the war" would affect his company's chains, which include Bloomingdale's and Macy's. Yet Mr. Zimmerman said he was struck by the fact that stock prices barely moved after American troops seized control of the major government offices and the Hussein family palaces in Baghdad last Wednesday — a Wall Street shrug, he said, that "clearly indicates that there are other factors at work in the economy that have as much, if not more, impact on what we can expect to see in the weeks and months ahead."

The economy, executives and economists note, faces a litany of uncertainties beyond the war — including an alarming rise in jobs lost, rising state and federal deficits, and signs of a retreat from the commitment to free trade and globalization. Individual industries are confronting their own challenges, from the falloff in travel to Asia because of fears of severe acute respiratory syndrome, or SARS, to the enduring slump in the information technology and telecommunications businesses.

"We had this big cloud in front of us called Iraq," said David Wyss, chief economist of Standard & Poor's. "But we're still not sure what smaller ones are behind it."

The war has clearly hit American business — trimming perhaps half a percentage point off economic growth in the first half of this year, economists estimate.

The prospect of war in the early months of the year added to the uncertainty in an already shaky economy, prompting companies to put off some investments and some consumers to forgo costly purchases. Once the bombing began on March 19, the distraction effect took hold as people stayed home more to watch television news of the war. Advertising and retail sales fell.

Companies have issued profit warnings recently, saying quarterly earnings would be less than Wall Street had expected and blaming the war. Some, like Barnes & Noble, point to the war as the main culprit. Others, like Siebel Systems and PeopleSoft, which sell expensive software to corporate customers, cited the war as a contributing cause. "The environment for capital spending worsened in the first quarter with added concerns about the war and its impact on the already weakened economy," said Craig A. Conway, chief executive of PeopleSoft.

Now that a crucial chapter of the war seems closed, the outlook will hinge largely on consumer and corporate attitudes, according to the executives and economists. Since last fall, consumer confidence has dropped sharply. One widely watched confidence index produced by the Conference Board, a business research group, fell from 93.7 last September to 62.5 in March, an unusually steep slide.

Despite the soft economy of the last couple of years, the auto industry has held up comparatively well. "But we are definitely seeing a weakening of demand, and it tracks very closely with consumer confidence," said Rick Wagoner, chief executive of General Motors, who was among a few dozen executives who met with President Bush at the White House last Thursday. Mr. Bush was trying to garner business support for his tax-cut proposals. The House has approved the president's plan for tax reductions of $726 billion over 10 years, but the Senate trimmed the package to $350 billion.

Some critics of Mr. Bush, as well as some economists, fear that the administration's plan will mortgage the economy's future by drastically increasing the federal deficit.



To: TobagoJack who wrote (31408)4/13/2003 12:08:32 AM
From: elmatador  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
Jay, TeoTwawki doesn't come dressed as this. Turning points that signalized the TeoTwawki is like Black death which contributed to the end of the feudal system. You would need a lot more of death to make a significant dent on the world of today.

Turks taking of Constantinople blocking the way to the Easter parts of the world. Is one example, or the discover of the new world by the Portuguese and the Spanish are other examples that come to mind.

The problem of HK is similar to the problem of NZ. Size. There are one billion Chinese there and they are not going to be wiped out by this desease.

A few weekends in Sao Paulo Jardim Angela and Rio de Janeiro Baixada Fluminense produces more casualties than those 120 or so deaths.

HK inherited an UK system. Weak yo deal with this kind of problem. As you know anything in Europe -like a three day without collecting the trash by the public services and they cry chaos.

Look behind the scenes and you'd see civil servants threatened by budgets cuts faning the flames.



To: TobagoJack who wrote (31408)4/13/2003 12:15:07 AM
From: elmatador  Respond to of 74559
 
Lets profit from SARS.
Why don't we start selling something people don't much about and say that is good to fight SARS and to prevent and make a killing?

You see, Chinese people buy tiger genitals, Rhyno bones and other exotic stuff for their health benefit. It is a perfect market for us to start selling a exotic stuff form the Amazon jungle.

Lets find a dr. to endorse it and rake in the cash. I think Guarana could be the exotic stuff.

guarana.org.uk

I am just embracing you concept of crisis=friend.



To: TobagoJack who wrote (31408)4/13/2003 12:20:20 AM
From: elmatador  Respond to of 74559
 
Another way to profit from SARS

I am willing to conduct any business -barred businesses direct related to the scare like serving as gunea pig for vacines but we can work the details out on a contract- on the behalf of any client in Guangdong, Singapore and HK.

USD2000/day plus expenses.

Need visa only to China but that is just a formality. How about that?



To: TobagoJack who wrote (31408)4/13/2003 3:36:59 AM
From: smolejv@gmx.net  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 74559
 
Hi Jay - my sympathies ( or at least empathies, even if it's rather hard to see the whole sorry context). To cheer you up (*)
>having to de-camp Hong Kong by chartered boat< dont forget your Pt anchor;

DJ

* Huh?! cheer Jay up? Éxperience tells me, watch your headroom



To: TobagoJack who wrote (31408)4/13/2003 1:44:01 PM
From: jim black  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 74559
 
Hello Jay. My sympathies regarding SARS. I remain totally skeptical about virtually anything we are hearing in the media about the disease until the CDC or WHO comes out with epidemiological data. If it is indeed a corona virus that will be interesting. My experience with that type of virus goes way back to the days before there was a vaccine for the canine disease. I was a serious breeder of German Shepherds for years and was for quite awhile terrified to take my dogs to shows for fear of the disease. I think that 1) the fear has been whipped by the media out of proportion for ratings and shock effect, 2) the masks people are wearing are unlikely to filter particles as small as an airborne virion, 3) any economic effects such as Intel's and Sun's cancellation of meetings in Asia will be shortlived, and 4) there are much larger dangers in the labs of terrorists hidden around the globe, e.g., mouse pox grown in the presence of interleukin II produces a strain of mouse pox totally immune to effects of current vaccinations. All of these species specific poxes are very similar. Human smallpox grown in the presence of interleukin II is likely to be a nightmare out of any control. I have little trouble with imagining muslim terrorists unleashing such an "Allah's Plague" on the infidel's world since the theology of islam puts all emphasis on the next life and not this.
Rather than use a mask of dubious benefit I think I would rather stay at home and enjoy the beach. And kill roaches like there is no tomorrow. If we are to believe the reports roaches may be vector and SARS may be an airborne AND fecal oral transmissable disease. Peculiar indeed that children appear resistant ...damned peculiar.
Cheers
Jim



To: TobagoJack who wrote (31408)4/17/2003 5:58:09 AM
From: elmatador  Respond to of 74559
 
Jay, the US troops fought powered by Guarana, the exotic Amazon berry I suggest we could introduce as a drink against SARS.

Message 18834172

Shit, someone outsmarted Elmat and ran with the cash!!! Iraqis on tea couldn't match invaders on Guarana!

Speed demons

US troops raced with remarkable speed across the Iraqi desert. It turns out many of them had Bawls.

The "most highly caffeinated drink" on the market, Bawls has become a favourite among US troops stationed in and around Iraq, Hoby Buppert, the company's 29-year-old chief executive, told Observer.

The drink, which is made from the guarana berry, has long been a favourite among video-game players who want to stay up all night.

But Buppert says that since the war in Iraq began he has received hundreds of requests from soldiers and has shipped out more than 1,000 cases.

"The air force base in Qatar is buying it," he says. "Now more than ever, there's a greater need to stay alert." Ten hut!

news.ft.com

If Brazil doesn't agree with the next war, we stop supplying them Guarana and the soldiers will not fight. Move pover Coca-Cola.