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To: Dale Baker who wrote (152)4/13/2003 1:32:27 PM
From: Dan B.  Respond to of 20773
 
1. I don't see what is terribly interesting about that. It overlooks very real differences, such as whether "suckering" is an equally apt description in all cases(I think not, as I was suggesting).

2. I'm quite confident that taking out a terrorist camp here and there, certainly in the form of such a major enclave of radicals as was removed from Iraq recently, accomplishes plenty rather than nothing.

3. What our leaders have deemed appropriate in other cases is irrelevant, IMO. This Liberation is both a good and important reality, without question. It's not "nice sounding" it IS nice, good, important, beneficial, etc. I think I'm on solid ground taking it for what it is, nothing more.

4. The liberation should have very positive consequences for us down the line. While we may not be able to prove the absence of acts of terrorism that might otherwise materialize but for what we've done to terrorist elements inside Iraq, we also surely have sent the appropriate anti-terrorist message many need to hear exactly this loudly.

5. Right, we aren't at war over economic interests. Our action is not imperialism then, of course. The truth of this will will out. We haven't presented an image of force(that would be long-run useless indeed), we've presented real force(to be liberating rather than controlling, at that, and our aims don't center around being useful vis-a-vis important organizations like the WTO). I, for one, certainly would never imagine that those who opposed us in this war would "roll over and do all they can to make our economic lives easier just because we are running Iraq." I can't imagine who would think so(oh, and technically, I expect we'll see to it that Iraq runs Iraq, not us. I'll have no qualms if the new "Democratic" Iraq is grateful to us, to some likely not insignificant extent).

Dan B



To: Dale Baker who wrote (152)4/14/2003 4:07:51 AM
From: Dale Baker  Respond to of 20773
 
All the headlines this morning focusing on the Iraqis who got away and whether any nasty stuff went with them.

Will the talking heads in US media start to question the viability (not to mention the expense) of occupying rogue states if tracking down the actual bad guys is just an exercise in herding cats?

Stay tuned - could get interesting.