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To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (93285)	4/13/2003 6:52:44 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

<Heard several reporters and commentators in today's news, openly advocating torture, to extract info from the captured weapons scientist. First we set up Guantanamo, then we complain about how American prisoners are treated, then we talk about torturing scientists. And then, we wonder why foreigners don't trust us to rule the planet. > Hey Jacob, I trust y'all to rule the world. They'll only torture the bad guys, not me. I'll wear a little yellow star or something so you know I'm a good guy. It didn't take long to start getting a taste for what torture might do to rid the planet of undesirables if some are already advocating fingernail pulling, or is it only to be some face-slappy? Which at least would be fun for the person doing it, even if the person being smacked around didn't feel like talking as a result. Tough guys are really tough against civilians, mouthy broads and prisoners, or enemies with pop-guns for self-defence. Face-slappy is traditional for tough guys to show their prisoners who is in charge. Mqurice

To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (93285)	4/14/2003 3:36:17 AM
From: KLP	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Do you have a link for this statement? Or what news outlet...on what program? This is much too general a statement, and one of the type that someone says "they said" and starts snowballing... Have you heard even ONE single person in the Administration saying anything of the sort? No, I didn't think so. I haven't either.. Who is the "we" you are referring to? Heard several reporters and commentators in today's news, openly advocating torture, to extract info from the captured weapons scientist. First we set up Guantanamo, then we complain about how American prisoners are treated, then we talk about torturing scientists. And then, we wonder why foreigners don't trust us to rule the planet.