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Politics : Stop the War! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: epicure who wrote (13025)	4/13/2003 8:25:27 PM
From: Thomas M.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 21614

<<< . . . Before the troops moved out March 28, Diaz said, the soldiers had begun to ask themselves fresh questions. "We were wondering why these guys would take on tanks with small arms and RPGs. We were also getting suicide bombers trying to get to the tanks. But they just didn't seem to realize how powerful these tanks are," he said. "By this time we were all pretty jittery. We were on edge all the time" . . . . . . "Basically we were all saying the [intelligence] sucked," Diaz said. "They told us there would be parades. They told us whole units would capitulate. But we had people shooting at us when we were told there would be no opposition. People were ready then for this to be over because we had been in pretty heavy contact for nearly a week." By the start of the war's second week, the soldiers began to believe none of the intelligence assessments would come true. And the closer they drew to Baghdad, the more fanatical the resistance became. "It was almost like a joke," Diaz said. "I didn't get it. You see a tank coming and you get away from there. But these guys would jump behind something, then come out firing with an AK-47." After a series of combat patrols over a few days, including a sweep along Highway 8 south of Baghdad to prevent reinforcements from reaching the city, the task force was ordered to drive into central Baghdad in a "thunder run" show of force. The idea was to link up with other 3rd Division forces at Baghdad International Airport to show American troops could go where they wanted, when they wanted. That day, April 5, turned into one of the worst of Diaz's life. No sooner had the task force cleared the last American checkpoint on Highway 8 than the volume of enemy fire accelerated beyond a level anyone had dreamed. Iraqi soldiers and Fedayeen fired from bunkers, alleys and rooftops. They fired from behind trees and from every cranny . . . >>> accessatlanta.com

To: epicure who wrote (13025)	4/13/2003 8:44:52 PM
From: craig crawford	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 21614

>> Look, I'm sure I'm not the only one who is tired of the argument here over how bad the Jewish conspiracy is. I don't CARE if there is a Jewish conspiracy. Could we move on and try to discuss Israel rationally and IGNORE the people who are in area 51, as far as the Jews and Israel are concerned? The antiSemitic Zionist conspiracy folks are NEVER EVER going to move beyond their conspiracy, and you folks arguing with them are enabling them, by giving them someone to talk to. imo. Plus, and I realize this is selfish of me, it's gotten very very boring. << what if i was to say the same thing about the so-called holocaust? what if i was to say that the holocaust lobby was NEVER NEVER going to move beyond making the whole world feel guilty and in debt to the jews for the so-called holocaust. did it ever occur to you that maybe gentiles are sick and tired of endless discussion, references in the popular culture, and conspiracy theories about the so-called holocaust? maybe when the jewish supremacists who run the media stop inundating the public with conspiracies about how gentiles want to rise up and destroy jews every generation, we will back off on our so-called conspiracy theories as well. as usual, you want one standard for the jews, but an entirely different standard for everyone else. practically a day can't go by without reference to the "holocaust" or the evil perpetrated against jews. yet you are sick and tired of "The antiSemitic Zionist conspiracy folks" giving you the other side of the story. jewish hypocrisy on display yet again...

To: epicure who wrote (13025)	4/13/2003 8:52:08 PM
From: Brumar89	Respond to of 21614

The only antiwar folks left here are the anti-semites. About the time Baghdad Bob and the rest of Saddam's gov't disappeared, Partytime, Karen Lawrence, and the rest disappeared too. Funny how things work out.