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Politics : Stop the War! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: AK2004 who wrote (13059)	4/13/2003 10:37:39 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 21614

you did not need carrier to cause the damage in Israel Damage? What damage? The Israelis sank an American ship, not the other way around. during the war time military ships are attacked in the international waters. So it would have been OK in WW2 for the US to sink any British battleship it found? You sink the ships of your enemies, not your friends. and 2 civilian airplanes took down world trade center Idiotic analogy. The Liberty took no hostile action against Israeli. unidentified military ship approaching the tiny country? Unidentified? Flying the Stars and Stripes? That's sufficient identification under the laws of war. would you be ok if israel would execute cia operatives in Israel? I Yep. You spy, you pay. Goes with the territory. and there might have been some errors in judgement but the bottom line is that it was not intentional. Not intentional? The ship was easily identifiable as an American vessel. The identification question was settled in previous posts. It was international waters. It took no hostile action. The torpedo boats came within 50 feet of the ship, couldn't see the American flag on the mast, couldn't see the words "USS LIBERTY" on the stern, couldn't see "GTR-5" in 10 foot letters on the bow. .......................................................... One boat pulled one [lifeboat] out of the water and took it on board. Didn't see the words "USS LIBERTY" stenciled on it. home.cfl.rr.com After sinking the Liberty, the Israeli navy then attempted to insure that all the crew were dead- -they machined gunned the lifeboats- -a violation of international law. The boats shot at American sailors on the deck of the Liberty as the sailors tried to help one another. As life rafts were put in the water by Liberty sailors in preparation for abandoning the ship, the boats shot them up. home.cfl.rr.com Not only Israel was attacking it's best friend but Israel also knew that there were Saratoga and America in the neighborhood. Lotta good that did. Then, inexplicably, unmarked Israeli aircraft began attacking the ship. The defenseless LIBERTY radioed for help. Two aircraft carriers in the Med responded by launching fighter aircraft. Unbelievably, they were recalled by the White House. RADM Geis, then commanding the carriers in the Sixth Fleet, called Washington personally to confirm the order. SecDef McNamara came on the line, then President Johnson. Johnson indicated to Geis that the aircraft were to be returned, that he would not have his allies embarrassed, and that he didn't care who was killed or what was done to the ship. Geis, like any good sailor, recalled the aircraft. home.cfl.rr.com