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To: Sully- who wrote (17154)4/15/2003 10:52:22 AM
From: Jim Willie CB  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 89467
 
you are still badly deluded

thanks to Saddam, Iraqi citizens suffered brutality and perhaps over two million murders

thanks to US Military actions, 100k soldiers were killed
one might easily argue that the majority WANTED TO SURRENDER
we only compounded their suffering
now watch the chaos grow, even as it is denied
yesterday, a CNN reporter was asked if Rumsfeld was incorrectly downplaying the looting
the reporter said that "Rummsy doubtfully would have chosen his words in such a way if he had spent some time in Baghdad"

democracy will never occur in the Arab world
find me a single example, and dont bother citing Egypt
this pretense for war is as ludicrous as searching for Weapons of Mass Destruction

democracy is viewed by Islamics as an attack on their culture
you are in for a rude awakening
our attempts to create democracy will invite new Islamic Revolutions, even in Iraq
illiterate Americans fail to realize that only second to Saudi Arabia, Iraq stands as the location to numerous holy sites and shrines in Islam

just take for a minute the factions inside Iraq
are you even aware of their centuries of hatred, mutual murder, theft, and subjugation?
they have fought for centuries, wake up
they cannot sit in the same table together

we are not talking about differences, like Californians, NewYorkers, and Carolinians sitting together, settling disputes over culture
we are largely Anglo-Saxon WASPy, Judeo-Christians
THEY ARE NOTHING LIKE THAT
their Shi'ites want Sunnis dead
the Kurds are wanted by nobody, the Iraqi equivalent of Palestinians
DONT YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT YOU SPEAK ???

are you serious enough, deluded enough, to think that Sunnis, Shi'ites, and Kurds can decide on legislation, financing, and other matters under the same roof ???
this is the centerpiece of American stupidity, ignorance, and deception
do you know anything about this nation of Iraq ???

last week a Shi'ite cleric was hacked to death
this is what might happen on their Senate floor

my God, Man, WAKE UP !!!
you sound like a naive fool
let me close with a basic simple question
WILL KURDS SIT IN THIS NEW IRAQI CONGRESS ?
WILL KURDS LEAD AND GOVERN IN THEIR HISTORICAL CAPITAL KIRKUK ?
WILL KURDS EXACT SOME REVENGE AGAINST SUNNIS FOR THE 200,000 MURDERS BY SADDAM'S SUNNI FRIENDS ?
HOW WILL THIS PLAY OUT WITH IRAQI FINANCE APPROPRIATIONS, IRAQI CONGRESSIONAL REPRESENTATION ?
a simple democratic detail question made more complicated by vast oil riches in the Kurdish homeland territory

if you cannot answer this, then please keep quiet, stand back, and learn about this very complex nation before you speak ridiculous opinions

the USA has a similar example
following the Civil War, blacks were not permitted to vote, still had trouble owning land, and were dispossessed
they did not sit in Congress and enjoy representation
do you expect the Kurds to be different?

/ jim