To: Sully- who wrote (17154 ) 4/15/2003 10:52:22 AM From: Jim Willie CB Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 89467 you are still badly deluded thanks to Saddam, Iraqi citizens suffered brutality and perhaps over two million murders thanks to US Military actions, 100k soldiers were killed one might easily argue that the majority WANTED TO SURRENDER we only compounded their suffering now watch the chaos grow, even as it is denied yesterday, a CNN reporter was asked if Rumsfeld was incorrectly downplaying the looting the reporter said that "Rummsy doubtfully would have chosen his words in such a way if he had spent some time in Baghdad" democracy will never occur in the Arab world find me a single example, and dont bother citing Egypt this pretense for war is as ludicrous as searching for Weapons of Mass Destruction democracy is viewed by Islamics as an attack on their culture you are in for a rude awakening our attempts to create democracy will invite new Islamic Revolutions, even in Iraq illiterate Americans fail to realize that only second to Saudi Arabia, Iraq stands as the location to numerous holy sites and shrines in Islam just take for a minute the factions inside Iraq are you even aware of their centuries of hatred, mutual murder, theft, and subjugation? they have fought for centuries, wake up they cannot sit in the same table together we are not talking about differences, like Californians, NewYorkers, and Carolinians sitting together, settling disputes over culture we are largely Anglo-Saxon WASPy, Judeo-Christians THEY ARE NOTHING LIKE THAT their Shi'ites want Sunnis dead the Kurds are wanted by nobody, the Iraqi equivalent of Palestinians DONT YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT YOU SPEAK ??? are you serious enough, deluded enough, to think that Sunnis, Shi'ites, and Kurds can decide on legislation, financing, and other matters under the same roof ??? this is the centerpiece of American stupidity, ignorance, and deception do you know anything about this nation of Iraq ??? last week a Shi'ite cleric was hacked to death this is what might happen on their Senate floor my God, Man, WAKE UP !!! you sound like a naive fool let me close with a basic simple question WILL KURDS SIT IN THIS NEW IRAQI CONGRESS ? WILL KURDS LEAD AND GOVERN IN THEIR HISTORICAL CAPITAL KIRKUK ? WILL KURDS EXACT SOME REVENGE AGAINST SUNNIS FOR THE 200,000 MURDERS BY SADDAM'S SUNNI FRIENDS ? HOW WILL THIS PLAY OUT WITH IRAQI FINANCE APPROPRIATIONS, IRAQI CONGRESSIONAL REPRESENTATION ? a simple democratic detail question made more complicated by vast oil riches in the Kurdish homeland territory if you cannot answer this, then please keep quiet, stand back, and learn about this very complex nation before you speak ridiculous opinions the USA has a similar example following the Civil War, blacks were not permitted to vote, still had trouble owning land, and were dispossessed they did not sit in Congress and enjoy representation do you expect the Kurds to be different? / jim