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To: LPS5 who wrote (5413)4/14/2003 8:17:45 PM
From: Wildstar  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 13056
 
That's basically my position. I think that death could be a proportional punishment for a crime such as pre-meditated murder, but I don't trust the state with such power.



To: LPS5 who wrote (5413)4/14/2003 11:08:11 PM
From: miraje  Respond to of 13056
 
I cannot accept that facility in the hands of the state, though.

Some argue that it can never be applied equitably, or that invariably some innocent people are executed. Valid points, but not the main point, IMO. Killing in self defense, whether by citizens, police, or the armed forces, can be perfectly justified. But...

My primary objection to capital punishment is the same as yours. Giving the state the power to kill people who are already locked in a cage, no matter how despicable the offenses they've committed, is barbarous. Give the worst of the worst another "Devils Island" with bread and water and breaking rocks in the hot sun, and if they happen to kill each other on occasion, c'est la vie. But I strenuously object to the state being in the non self defense killing business.

-JB



To: LPS5 who wrote (5413)4/21/2003 11:31:25 AM
From: The Philosopher  Respond to of 13056
 
I personally believe that death is probably the proper and just punishment for
some crimes. I cannot accept that facility in the hands of the state, though.


You would prefer an Islamic stoning to death at the hands of the community?

You forget the basic libertarian principal -- under a true libertarian government, the people ARE the state. Your making that separation is a rejection, IMO, of the basic tenets of a libertarian state.