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To: cheryl williamson who wrote (53708)	4/14/2003 8:57:10 PM
From: QwikSand	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 64865

The US has had its share of problems dealing with formerly friendly dictators. Word up. This is one of my favorites: gwu.edu I notice you left Chile off your list :-). --QS

To: cheryl williamson who wrote (53708)	4/15/2003 12:47:59 AM
From: Elroy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 64865

For the record, the discussion is about wars of liberation and the pretext used by the country doing the liberating. Hey c'mon, freedom of speech and internet chat board = the discussion is about whatever the poster wants to discuss! The words "isn't the best regime" and "but they haven't misbehaved" is as sanctimonious as any political commentary I have ever read. So I'm the producer of the supreme expression of hypocrisy and extreme dispenser or sancitmoniosity as well, eh? You might want to tone down the extreme verbosity (this is just an internet chat board). Why, in your esteemed moral judgement is Saudi Arabia not worthy of "liberation" and Iraq is??? In my esteemed moral judgment, pipe down! I never said any of the things you are trying to put in my mouth. I never said Saudi is not worthy of liberation. I haven't expressed an opinion on it either way, except to say that the US/coalition forces should not in invade Saudi this month. Seems pretty reasonable - they also shouldn't invade Denmark, and especially not Chile! My point again was that if you wanted to "liberate" Saudi Arabia for whatever reason, you shouldn't just destroy the regime without warning in, say, May 2003! You should at first attempt to reform the regime through diplomacy. That probably takes a decade of the normal sanctions, declarations, etc. At the very least you've gotta very publicly declare exactly what it is you want changed in Saudi Arabis (to the best of my knowledge there is no US-led or multinational movement to encourage internal change in Saudi at the moment). And then only after you determine that the peaceful route is failing should a country consider the alternative options. That's my supreme moral hypocritical verbose extreme viewosity! Elroy